I should be better at Java for all the years of experience I have programming in it

@Moon Does anyone even use Java anymore outside of Minecraft and Android? It seems like it's dying off.

@xianc78 tons of business stuff is written in and continues to be written in Java. If I were running a fortune-100 company I would quite possibly even still think it was a good choice.

@Moon It doesn't surprise me that it's still used for internal software. It's still the preferred language at my college, but I hate it. C# is much better IMO and it's one of the few things Microsoft got right.

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C# may be a good language but until recently the ecosystem was very proprietary and MS-centric AFAIK.
Java ecosystem is much more open from my experience.

@wolf480pl @Moon Mono has been around since 2004 and .NET is pretty much open-source now. C# still seems to be frowned upon in the FOSS community because Microsoft can still fuck with the language whenever they want, but if you don't care about that and just want to make games it's a pretty good language for just that.

@xianc78 @Moon I'm not talking about the language itself, more about third party libraries. What are the top web frameworks for .NET? What are the top ORMs for .NET? Are they open-source?

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@wolf480pl @Moon ASP.NET and Entity Framework are both open source now. As for third-party stuff, Blazor and DotNetNuke are open-source web frameworks for .NET.

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