@ardaissad ah yeah, so what kind of anarchist thinkers are u influenced by?

@cee lysander spooner, Max stirner, Murray Rothbard, sometimes prodhoun

@ardaissad ah yeee, so kind of in the centre, centre-right? thats cool

yeah im friends with alotta different kinds of people, anyone who supports decentralisation really.
it's interesting, im friends with both ancaps and ancoms, but u start to see that every individual has kinda got their own philosophy going on.

@cee actually its just test but I'm ancap. Just I love this anarchist thinkers.

@ardaissad i know they are not the most accurate thing, cuz it still reckons im centre left but im defs more centre tbh, alongside with the egoists and anarchists without adjectives (AWA). I know @Alex is a cool egoist, then u got @lanodan who is AWA
@Andrii who is a distributist (kinda like mutualism lite)

theres @xianc78 who is a panarchist, then u got the ancap/vonluntarist squad like @icedquinn @shebang @waltercool @top @kerosene

i know @Indigo was an ancap that has read stirner.

@herag and @chillanarchist@liberdon.com who are agorists

then u got social anarchists like @0x520 and @vera
@maksimilian_stepniakov is an eco-nihilist
and @matthew is a libertarian marxist.

all these people are based in my books, and very kind too, love em all

@cee @icedquinn @herag @shebang @kerosene @vera @matthew@helladoge.com @0x520 @maksimilian_stepniakov @waltercool @ardaissad @lanodan @Indigo @top @Andrii @Alex Ancap and panarchism are basically the same thing. Any anarcho-capitalist would also be a Panarchist because voluntarily choosing your own government, political, and economic system is all consistent with anarcho-capitalist principles.

I personally think that Panarchism is a much better way to express anarcho-capitalism because it doesn't imply that the free-market capitalist system is the only economic system that could exist and it could get non-capitalists on our side.

@xianc78 @cee @icedquinn @herag @shebang @kerosene @vera @matthew @0x520 @maksimilian_stepniakov @ardaissad @lanodan @Indigo @top @Andrii @Alex Panarchism and Voluntaryism aren’t kinda same? Or Panarchism is only related to economy?

While I don’t agree with communism/socialism/democracy, I think it’s fair for people to pick any economic system AS LONG NO ONE IS FORCED.

This also enforce my stance against Democracy. If 99.9% of people vote and decide for Communism / Socialism / Liberalism / Capitalism, is not acceptable to force those 0.1% individuals for something they don’t want.

@waltercool @icedquinn @herag @kerosene @shebang @cee @vera @matthew@helladoge.com @0x520 @maksimilian_stepniakov @ardaissad @lanodan @Indigo @top @Andrii @Alex Panarchism is the idea of voluntarily choosing your own government (or no government at all). It was coined by a Belgian botanist, Paul Émile de Puydt back in 1860 but remained relatively obscure due to the fact that he was not a political writer. In recent years, the ideology has been embraced by ancaps/voluntaryists because it's compatible with their principles.

https://polcompball.miraheze.org/wiki/Panarchism

@xianc78 @waltercool @icedquinn @herag @kerosene @cee @vera @matthew @0x520 @maksimilian_stepniakov @ardaissad @lanodan @Indigo @top @Andrii @Alex I mean, I think it's unpopular because it doesn't really make sense.

It seems like, "Ok, I'm going to choose the government I want." fine, but what if I want something else, like, you know -- no god damn government. You can't run a government of any kind without coercion so really this is just a mealy mouthed statism with the usual nonsense.

@shebang @icedquinn @herag @kerosene @cee @vera @matthew@helladoge.com @0x520 @maksimilian_stepniakov @waltercool @ardaissad @lanodan @Indigo @top @Andrii @Alex Choosing a government will give you benefits that you wouldn't get if you didn't choose said government (access to their schools, utilities, etc).

@xianc78 @icedquinn @herag @kerosene @cee @vera @matthew @0x520 @maksimilian_stepniakov @waltercool @ardaissad @lanodan @Indigo @top @Andrii @Alex That's just another argument for statism, with the exact same arguments for and against, nothing new or compelling here.

@shebang @icedquinn @herag @kerosene @cee @vera @matthew@helladoge.com @0x520 @maksimilian_stepniakov @waltercool @ardaissad @lanodan @Indigo @top @Andrii @Alex The only difference is that it's all voluntary. If you don't want to be govern and don't care about the benefits you can simply choose to have no government at all.

@xianc78 @icedquinn @herag @kerosene @cee @vera @matthew @0x520 @maksimilian_stepniakov @waltercool @ardaissad @lanodan @Indigo @top @Andrii @Alex Ok so you decide you want a nice social democracy and then I decide I want nothing at all, and Bob decides he wants hardline marxist-leninist communism and it sounds like we've got 3 incompatible ways of life all sitting right next to one another. How is this going to work?

@shebang @icedquinn @herag @kerosene @cee @vera @matthew@helladoge.com @0x520 @maksimilian_stepniakov @waltercool @ardaissad @lanodan @Indigo @top @Andrii @Alex

People are expected to respect others ways of life via the NAP. Logically, Marxists-Leninists can't just take from non-marxists, but they can take from other marxists since they consent to that.

But realistically, I think the communists will just have communes where it's only them and I think the social democrats would do the same. So, yeah the communists would probably keep a distance from everywhere else. I see the capitalists (not necessarily ancaps) having different types of governments in the same space.