Steam Deck no longer requires waiting list...

And I've already ordered the dock :D

@xianc78
This one looks nice :D
4G is a nice feature, and I love the keyboard... Do you think it would support Steam OS?

@LukeAlmighty It does. It also supports multi-boot unlike the Steam Deck. Unfortunately, it's not out yet.

@xianc78
I'll keep my deck for now, but it definitelly looks like a great alternative.

Do you know the price already? I cannot find in on that page for some reason.

@LukeAlmighty It's probably going to be in the $800-$1000 range given the previous GPD Win models. That might be it's only drawback (or second drawback if you really don't want to give money to the Chinese).

I had a GPD Win 2 and its performance was extremely exaggerated in the advertisements. It performed similarly to an overclocked Raspberry Pi, though it did run Windows 10, which was the main reason I bought it. The build was solid but goddamn did it get HOT sometimes. After about a year it stopped turning on and became e-waste. 😢

https://gpd.hk/gdpwin2

@caekislove @LukeAlmighty Really? I heard nothing but praise from it, but this was long before the Steam Deck was even announced and handheld PC gaming was still seen as a novelty. And people were disappointed with the under-performing Dragonbox Pyra (which I think still hasn't even come out yet).

LOL, I remember being hyped about the Pyra in like 2014. I actually own its predecessor the Pandora and it still works to this day! I guess I've always had a fascination with the concept of a handheld PC , and thanks to the popularity of the Steam Deck, the market will probably be flooded with them soon!

@caekislove @xianc78
An idea existed for decades, but noone ever dared to make it properly...

Funny ain't it?

Until the Steam Deck (and now I guess the GPD Win 4), everyone who tried seemed to be stuck in the mode of making PC-like cell phones using system-on-a-chip setups running software designed for way more powerful hardware, which of course was always going to disappoint. Even the Nintendo Switch is basically a cell phone that can't make calls shaped like a game console.

@caekislove @LukeAlmighty
>Even the Nintendo Switch is basically a cell phone that can't make calls shaped like a game console.

The Nintendo Switch is a rebranded Nvidia Shield tablet just with a custom BSD fork (at least for the kernel) instead of Android and maybe just slightly more powerful (the original Shield was from 2014). Hell, before the Switch came out, Nintendo ported some of their Wii and GameCube titles for the Nvidia Shield exclusively for the Chinese market.

@xianc78 @caekislove @LukeAlmighty I heard the switch is running a modified 3ds os.

The Sony consoles (PS4/5) do run bsd and that's why they get pwnd with freebsd exploits.

@PhenomX6 @LukeAlmighty @caekislove It's using some FreeBSD components. There is even a license for the FreeBSD kernel in the EULA. I assume they needed some Unix-like OS if they were going to use APIs like Vulkan.

@xianc78 @LukeAlmighty @caekislove everything does tbh. That's one of the arguments for the gpl and against it depending on how much corporate dick you suck.
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@PhenomX6 @LukeAlmighty @caekislove I don't think its a matter of sucking corporate dick. If it's a small project that you don't really care about and doubt that corporations are going to use it in their proprietary products then you are more likely to use a permissive license. Like you really think a big corporation is going to take code from some shitty Pac-Man clone they found on GitHub?

There are also cases where you simply can't use the GPL even if all your components are FOSS because one or more library that you are using is licensed under a GPL incompatible license. Like for me, I can't use the GPL for my MonoGame projects because MonoGame is licensed under the Ms-PL which is a FOSS license, but is incompatible with the GPL. The closest licenses to the GPL that I can use are the MPL or the Ms-RL.

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