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@netdoll @animeirl I have never seen a single person owning a MacPro. Every desktop Mac I see is an iMac. Rarely do I see a Mac Mini, but it's usually used as a home theater setup.

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@xianc78 @animeirl My gf owned one and used it as her main computer throughout the early 2010s

@netdoll @animeirl If you want a Mac that acts like a traditional PC just build a Hackintosh (yeah I know that it's no longer an option, but it was back in 2010).

@xianc78 @animeirl Pretty sure she did switch to a Hackintosh as her next machine, but Mac Pros of that era are pretty good hardware so I can definitely see the appeal.

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>Mac Pros of that era are pretty good hardware

How? They always seemed on par with mid-range PCs at best.

@xianc78 @animeirl Maybe raw specs, but the case design and ergonomics are really nice and they're built like unironic tanks.

@netdoll @animeirl Ironic coming from the company that is probably the most known for planned obsolescence.

Apple has that reputation and they are bad but there are so many companies that are way worse e. g. every single android phone maker
@xianc78 @animeirl They were never particularly out of the ordinary about it until the success of the iPhone.

@netdoll @animeirl Phones have always been meant to be replaced every ~2 years, and that is mostly due to cellular network giving you a free upgrade.

@xianc78 @animeirl Yeah, difference is nobody really tried applying the 2 year contract model to computers in earnest until Apple decided to capitalize on their success as a lifestyle brand stemming from their phones.

@netdoll @animeirl Laptops are still repairable if you buy a good one and not some shitty netbook, but anyone who isn't using a netbook, cheap laptop, or MacBook is probably a PC gamer who is naturally going to replace his gaming laptop when newer AAA games make it obsolete.

I'm actually trying to keep my current laptop for as long as possible. It's already outlasting my previous laptops and I recently replaced the fans. When the time comes, I'm either going to get a System76 or Framework.

I had a hackintosh on a Core2 Quard back in the day. I'm curious to see if people can get modern macOS running on some random arm SoCs.
oh right ... there is that Linux project to get a kernel working on the M1 .. opposite direction, but probably still useful.
@djsumdog @xianc78 @animeirl Not that I've seen, closest would be Rosetta 2 for Linux running on non-Apple CPUs but without TSO support things would be very sus.
@xianc78 @xianc78 @animeirl >home theater setup
Until GNU+Linux gets full HDR support, Adobe's creative software support, and Dolby's support, MacOS and Windows will always be commonly used for consuming/creating fancy media. Consider what hardware and software is used to craft those flamboyant print magazines.

@berkberkman @animeirl I don't pay attention or care about graphic design, video production, etc. But apparently, Macs were actually never the best option for those. They just became a shitty trend by Hollywood film directors. I've heard that even back then, Amiga was actually the best option when it came to media production.

@xianc78 @xianc78 @animeirl Having grown up with that sort of thing, they sadly are the only few options to even teach new students about them (especially Adobe). Lots of proprietary gunk has festered throughout media production (video, audio, print, etc.) for far too long. Even SGI's IRIX was guilty of this.

@berkberkman @animeirl At least Blender seems to have become the most popular 3D modeling program. It can also be used as a general purpose video editor.

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