@xianc78 @Xenophon @leyonhjelm @branman65 @Godcast @jetzkrieg @RealRaul >I don't plan to do it in America. I plan to do it out in the ocean via seasteading.

Make sure your seasteads are heavily armed and armored because the state will come for you.

@branman65 @leyonhjelm @caekislove @Xenophon @Godcast @jetzkrieg @RealRaul My point is that you need to do it off the coast of a country that won't harm you.

@xianc78 @branman65 @leyonhjelm @Xenophon @Godcast @jetzkrieg @RealRaul So relying on the goodwill of the state for security? Can't you just do that normally on land?
@xianc78 @leyonhjelm @Xenophon @branman65 @Godcast @jetzkrieg @RealRaul Fair enough, but you'd netter make it at least 200 miles out and hope that nobody in power redefines "exclusive economic zone".

@caekislove @leyonhjelm @Xenophon @branman65 @Godcast @jetzkrieg @RealRaul Nobody thought that America would be able to declare independence but here we are.

@xianc78 @caekislove @leyonhjelm @Xenophon @Godcast @jetzkrieg @RealRaul America had actual resources, and French money/troops, your shitty platform isn’t going to last
@xianc78 @caekislove @leyonhjelm @Xenophon @branman65 @Godcast @jetzkrieg @RealRaul Seasteading sounds neat until you consider the ocean is a liquid desert that wants to kill you.

Unless you've managed to build your own nuclear reactor and secured a fuel supply for it you can forget about maintaining any reasonable long term quality of life out there.

Then for an offshore settlement to be viable to permanently inhabit you have to find something to affordably produce out in the middle of the ocean that you can sell to the mainland to trade for all the stuff you can't produce yourself.

The economic model for every seasteading project I've ever seen relies on fake and gay businesses like tourism and gambling, or else is just a retirement community for people to live off their passive income from the mainland.
@xianc78 @Godcast @RealRaul @Xenophon @branman65 @caekislove @jetzkrieg @leyonhjelm Here's a free seasteading business model for you: offshore uranium farming.

https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scientificamerican.com%2Farticle%2Furanium-extraction-from-seawater-takes-a-major-step-forward%2F

There are a lot of sources you can find that talk about the idea of extracting uranium from seawater, but that one is nice because it gives you some concrete numbers to play with in a spreadsheet.

Once you do all the calculations you find the process described can supply nuclear power at an implied rate of 1450 watts per kg of filter material. That's fairly decent, especially if the filter material can be reused.

On the other hand if you used a more efficient molten salt reactor design that includes online reprocessing so that you can use all the uranium instead of throwing most of it away the 27,000 kilograms / gigawatt-year mentioned at the bottom of the page drops to about 1,000 kilograms per gigawatt-year.

Rerunning the numbers with that now your extraction process is worth 39100 watts per kg of filter.

Those are the kinds of numbers you need to build a viable settlement out in the middle of the ocean. 26 tons of filter active continually will keep a 1 GW molten salt reactor fueled. Now you have plenty of energy to not just keep yourself alive but also power manufacturing and agriculture so that you have products worth selling.
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