**xianc78** @xianc78@gameliberty.club · Mar 13, 2024, 16:54

**xianc78** @xianc78@gameliberty.club · Mar 13, 2024, 16:54

xianc78 @xianc78@gameliberty.club

Mar 13, 2024, 16:54

I'm a little late to this, but I feel the need to mention it because I feel like these people are just going to move to Telegram, if they already haven't.

Telegram is NOT a better alternative to Discord. It asks for your phone number (huge red flag), lies about being end-to-end encrypted (encryption is done server-side), is centralized, and not entirely FOSS (server-side software is closed source). Look into decentralized/self-hosted solutions instead.

I personally recommend hosting an XMPP server. Install an XMPP server stack that supports multi-user-chats and host your discussions there. With XMPP, you can sign up for an account on any server and talk to anyone, including people from other servers. There are even modernized web-clients like Movim which make it more user friendly.

For private/direct messages, you can also end-to-end encrypt them using OMEMO. Just don't use them for public MUCs or you will end up having problems. You really don't need to encrypt a public chat anyway.

If you need help running an XMPP server, Mental Outlaw made a video on it.

https://invidious.poast.org/watch?v=Ot_EmQ8xdJw

Really, even an IRC channel or an AJAX webchat/shoutbox is better than Discord or Telegram.

#SweetBabyInc #GamerGate #GamerGate2 #Discord #Telegram #XMPP #Privacy #Decentralization

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**kirby** @kirby@mashtodon.alterracloud.com · Mar 13, 2024, 17:02

**kirby** @kirby@mashtodon.alterracloud.com · Mar 13, 2024, 17:02

Mar 13, 2024, 17:02

kirby @kirby@mashtodon.alterracloud.com

@xianc78 IRC or bust, xmpp is somehow a disaster when it comes to managing groups easily

**The Final Maijaning** @straw@comp.lain.la · Mar 13, 2024, 17:04

**The Final Maijaning** @straw@comp.lain.la · Mar 13, 2024, 17:04

Mar 13, 2024, 17:04

The Final Maijaning @straw@comp.lain.la

@kirby @xianc78 works on my machine

@allison@hidamari.apartments · Mar 13, 2024, 17:07

@allison@hidamari.apartments · Mar 13, 2024, 17:07

Mar 13, 2024, 17:07

@allison@hidamari.apartments

@straw @xianc78 @kirby Yeah nah I'm with kirby here, MUCs are a disaster, especially if the group owners insist on using OMEMO for them

**xianc78** @xianc78@gameliberty.club · Mar 13, 2024, 17:07

**xianc78** @xianc78@gameliberty.club · Mar 13, 2024, 17:07

Mar 13, 2024, 17:07

xianc78 @xianc78@gameliberty.club

@allison @straw @kirby Why would you need to encrypt a public chat?

@allison@hidamari.apartments · Mar 13, 2024, 17:09

@allison@hidamari.apartments · Mar 13, 2024, 17:09

Mar 13, 2024, 17:09

@allison@hidamari.apartments

@xianc78 @straw @kirby If you have things going on there that you wouldn't want your server admins or other casual interlopers seeing. Credit where credit is due, I think Matrix's implementation of E2EE works a lot better for this than OMEMO MUCs, although to be fair that's kind of a low bar.