@dew_the_dew @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @Senpai-kun
Do not forget sunken cost fallacy. That beast will drive some people insane...

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @Senpai-kun in what context? trapped longs?

@dew_the_dew @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @Senpai-kun
I saw people work after not being paid, because they were "promissed pay", and it would be sunken cost to leave.

Humans are stupid that way.

@LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron

They're powerless, not stupid.

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
No, they are stupid.

To continue to work is to provide something for nothing. There is NOTHING keeping them there.

And if they turn their back, most enployers are smart enough to suddenly find the cash to pay them anyway.

They lost respect for themselves to even negotiate their own terms.

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

Workers have no rights in this country.

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
Oh... I don't know what country you live in, but do you REEEELY want to tell me, that there are legal implications of leaving an unpaid job?

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

More specifically workers have no collective bargaining power. The power imbalance between employer and employee is lopsided and cannot be fixed individually.

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
Fuck that commie noise.

One man leaving is more power then you can fathem.

When one leaves for not getting paid, other will consider the same. And when more leave, the employer is fucked.

And even when just you leave, you are no longer a slave.

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

Going Galt is not a threat to employers. People who have families need incomes. Employers fear unions, not lone wolves vanishing off into the woods.

@Senpai-kun @LukeAlmighty @sizzletron yes but for the pension goy, merely the threat of the pension not being there is pretty heavy

@dew_the_dew @LukeAlmighty @sizzletron

I don't know why anyone ever trusted pensions. It's not hard to envision how easy they are to just delete.

@Senpai-kun @LukeAlmighty @sizzletron in all seriousness if you don't have the money it's not your money.

@Senpai-kun @LukeAlmighty @sizzletron which brings us ALLLLLLLL the way back to central banking XD

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
You said it....

They jave families to feed. Working for free won't do that. How can you even try to reframe the simplest trade in the world?
2 options:
Work + no pay
or
Looking for work that will pay

They ARE stupid.

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

No, they are under duress. There is not enough economic mobility to be sure that you can quit your job like a boomer and pick up a new one on the way home. They are being told they cannot be paid in the moment, not indefinitely.

Rather than focus your ire on the abused employee, you should be screaming for the blood of the employer who is somehow able to abuse his employees in this way.

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
Yeah... and unions are the oldest trojan horse bullshit in the book.

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
I believe, that you truly fell for the fraud, that is separation between group and an individual... THERE IS NONE.

Every member of group has similar rules they live by. But if you include a rule "must obey group" and place a leader of said group, then you can control them all. It is a simple slide of hand.

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
Can I leave the bucket now? Pwety pease???

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

Libertarianism does not necessitate a suicidal degree of individualism.

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
NOT WORKING FOR FREE IS NOT SUICIDAL YOU RETARD!!!

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

They are told the situation is temporary, and the alternative is to re-enter a post-covid employment market. There are no good options on the table for them.

A bachelor with a healthy sum of savings stored up can laugh this whole situation off for months, or maybe even years. A man with a wife and children cannot.

@Senpai-kun @LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron meanwhile, the Amish defeated Covid by not giving a shit:

https://gab.com/WesternChauvinist1/posts/107125138001051324

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

If you are a libertarian then you should be pro-union. They are the most voluntary and least governmental way for workers to correct the individual power imbalance between employee and employer.

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
Yes, I am libertarian, and I never asked anyone for a premision to say "FUCK YOU NEGRO" to a boss.

And they treat me accordingly, knowing, that the first day my pay is not where it should be, or I decide its too low, I walk away.

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

If you can't even say nigger on fedi then someone owns your mouth.

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
Says the guy promoting literal slavery....

But they need their masta...

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

You're not even in favor of a voluntary labor union?

@Senpai-kun @sizzletron@noagendasocial.com @dew_the_dew
Ok, I quit.

You are dumber then average commie. They at least ask for "everyone to his needs"

@LukeAlmighty @sizzletron @dew_the_dew

Wait, what? Not even a voluntary union?

Is there any collective you wouldn't object to, no matter how voluntary?

Would a bowling club violate your individualist principles?

@LukeAlmighty @Senpai-kun @sizzletron @dew_the_dew if you think you can't do that in a union, you have never been a part of one. Right to work laws are anti-libertarian.

@Senpai-kun @LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron theory =/= practice

@Nudhul @LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron

It has always been a libertarian take that something which is good when it is voluntary is not necessarily better when it is mandatory. It follows that the reverse is also true.

@Senpai-kun @LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron yeah but that doesnt make unions good. they prevent upward mobility and get in the way of negotiations because everything must be done through the union head. if you are in a union, you are essentially a subcontractor for whomever employs you.

@Nudhul @LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron

It is in the nature of a collective to sacrifice flexibility in exchange for stability. That's not inherently bad unless the employee in question is such a one-man army that he cannot be disposed of easily on his own merit. I'm willing to bet a lot of people aren't that singularly powerful in whatever company they work for.

Regardless, if a worker can choose not to join a union, where's the foul?

@Senpai-kun @LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron sometimes there isn't a choice, or the individual in question is harassed by the union for not joining

@Nudhul @LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron

I mean if people are finding Union-planted horse heads in their bed, that's a matter for the police.

@Senpai-kun @LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron non-trade unions are also notorious for protecting bad employees from being fired i.e. abusive teachers or government workers

@Senpai-kun @LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron join a trade union today

@Senpai-kun if they try to impose punishments for quitting it becomes literal forced labor. See my Infinity doubling down post. They are threatening the people who enforce the law with legal consequences. What could possibly go wrong

@LukeAlmighty @dew_the_dew @sizzletron