@dave
Do you not think the same?

Nope, I think believing that the dating market is hopeless for you is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Maybe dating apps are, but that's not the only way to meet someone.

@dave Ok man, i am listening to your awesome guide

Trust me, there is nothing I wish more to be wrong about.

Have you considered volunteering at a pet shelter? Meals on Wheels, horse rescue, or some other community charity that can demonstrate you are a HVM, with enough resources and leisure time to devote to helping others? Wear a cowboy hat, pull your pants up, and do not put your cap on backwards. Don't forget to ask for help from the girl you like, show her you're not afraid to appear ignorant, and are willing to learn, change, to take advice from a woman who knows more than you (at least temporarily). You may have to go through several volunteer opportunities when your ignorance wears off. You can't fake it.

@polarisera @LukeAlmighty @dave

Great advice!

How to become a better human? By helping others.

@useless_idiot @polarisera @dave
Sounds like a plan with actual steps...
I'll consider it.

@polarisera @LukeAlmighty @dave

Pet shelter is a good one. I should try that.

@dave
In short, there is NOTHING easier for a young woman to do, then to find a good husband.

As long as she can follow the simple rules, that most modern women find laughable.

Doge, you can turn this same statement around and it's nearly as true for men, the only added difficulty is learning how to make the first move.

1. Get in shape, don't get sucked into vices that keep you holed up by yourself
2. Study hard and get a good job
3. Learn basic flirting

You now have all the tools you need to be attractive to a decent woman. Most men can do this.

@dave
I knew your analysis would be low level, but bloody hell...

I'm sorry you feel this way bro

> just bbe urself

@CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @dave

This is literally not being yourself. This is you rejecting all the things, that have made you yourself, that made the dating market seem so hopeless for you in the first place.

You're a faggot that doesnt know shit about shit and its apparent you havent touched grass anytime within the last 10 years and are a social and relational dinosaur. Clown world of today doesnt work like that anymore.

>jjust workout and bbe nice and respect woman god

Yes. This is literally exactly how it works. Every time I've gotten laid, it was by doing some form of this. I was in decent shape, I tried to be polite, tried to be flirty (never was very good, but I tried), and it worked out.

> Yes. This is literally exactly how it works.
No, it isn't.
> Every time I've gotten laid
This didn't happen.
> it worked out.
It didn't.

Dog, now you just sound like a poastie. In the long run you'll be happier if you learn to stop denying reality.

קיינער פאלט נישט פאר דיינע גאזליכטיגע טריקס, אלי.

@dave @CumskinFoidPuncher69420
Dog, now you just sound like a glassinator. In the long run you'll be happier if you learn to stop denying reality.

The difference is that I've actually flirted with girls and had sex while doing some amount of the (get fit, get good job) stuff. As a guy with an average face and a touch of the 'tism, I know from experience that most guys can get a girl if they do the above.

@dave @LukeAlmighty @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 Problem with this plan, from my observation, is that once you've "gotten a good job" all girls who don't show red flags are taken. Most find their partners during school or university years.

@Jens_Rasmussen @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty @dave

Okay, so assume that *hypothetically* (actually) I am in such a situation. How does one overcome it?

@FUCKINGWHOCARESDUDE @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty @dave You cope with anime, video games and hentai.

Shit, dude, I don't know. If you find out, please share the answer with me.

Polarisera gave some good - and more readily actionable - advice earlier in this thread.

I doubt it.

@dave @FUCKINGWHOCARESDUDE @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty The advice was "genuinely do volunteer work".
If I genuinely wanted to do volunteer work I'd be doing it already.

Growing up, did you ever get that sense of satisfaction of working with people you know to improve your community? I did. While there are negatives, the "mandatory" exposure to this is one of the more positive aspects of being raised Mormon.

@dave @FUCKINGWHOCARESDUDE @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty I didn't.
The closest I've gotten to work like that was picking up trash with the classmates at school. I recall it as a nice experience only because it was more fun than classes.

@dave @FUCKINGWHOCARESDUDE @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @Jens_Rasmussen
implying that volunteer jobs do help community.

Seriously? That's the most basic bitch white boomerette advice I've read this week.

Dog I'm being serious here you seem really bitter, and I'll bet that bleeds into your IRL interactions, and women can sense that shit even if you don't realize it.

@Jens_Rasmussen @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty @dave TBH I have always wanted to find a good place to do volunteer work since donating to a charity seems so...cheap, I guess--anyone can write a check, especially if your already well off. Plus, I don't trust any charities to make good use of the money.

@Jens_Rasmussen @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty @dave
*You're

But also I don't expect it to get me a wife

@FUCKINGWHOCARESDUDE @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty @dave Depending on the work, it might just show you how awful and undeserving some of the people receiving aid are. I've seen people realize how awful homeless/junkies are through that kind of work, as if stereotypes aren't true.

If you actually go ahead and try doing it, good luck.

You're fake news.

@CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty

Nope, it’s true. But I have to add that I honestly regret the sexual encounters I had before marrying.

I think girls are as desperately looking for good spouses as men. But neither knows how to be a good spouse.

Good advice from @dave and also from @polarisera . It will probably work for girls as well.

But accepting that my future is in my hands means that I have to suck it up and start doing some self-improvement, so instead I'm just going to leave a sarcastic remark and go back to browsing fedi.

@dave @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @polarisera @useless_idiot
Did I hear "just pull yourself by your bootstraps"?

😩 That may be what you heard, but not what was said.

What if you actually felt good about yourself for volunteering. Your self worth was no longer based on internet clout and linear comparisons to other loser males? And that very internal self-regard was detectable by a more sensitive member of the opposite sex, not really interested in that dumbassery of boyish rep. It's not out of the question, that after a few months of volunteering, some chick that had been ignoring your gamer-wanker vibe, suddenly noticed something very different about you, but couldn't quite figure it out, and just had to stop and ask you.

Girl: "You just seem like such a different person now." "I can't believe I used to think that about you." "Oh really, that is so cool."

You: "Yeah, I feel different, too. You know I really found myself, I feel comfortable being me now. I no longer think taking estrogen and feeling up my own tits is cool. I don't think skirts should go spinny, in fact I'm not even wearing them anymore. I think I'm ready to take life seriously as the man god made me. You know, I'm not really religious, but I've become quite spiritual, I see nature differently now. Nature is not there to be conquered or fought with drugs. It's part of us."

Girl: "Do you want kids?"

@polarisera @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty @dave

Also very funny!

ok spinster

@CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty @dave

@polarisera is giving some advice that I could have used years ago.

You're expecting someone named CumskinFoidPuncher69420 to read and consider a wall of words from a spinster with a black and white vintage photograph of some dead ass irrelevant dumb fuck white bitch first wave feminist.

@polarisera @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @dave @useless_idiot
Fucking fairytale.
My life and job couldn't possibly be better. And my self esteem is great.
It means nothing in this dating market.

Having bothered with all that in the past, I found the experience of just paying like $120 to pound a Japanese prostitute that was probably a decent bit nicer looking than my best self could land for a short while was more gratifying and left me less "empty" than common cultural portrayals of using prostitutes had me expecting. Really made me reevaluate the cost:benefit of engaging in typical current era relationships.

@dave @CumskinFoidPuncher69420 @LukeAlmighty

What specifically did you do that is considered flirting?