@ChristiJunior
Because there is no way of raising the concept, that women shouldn't be working till 40, and maybe choose to marry young instead of getting railed..... without being called pedophile.

And that is a problem.

@LukeAlmighty My impression is that the "17 years 364 days old is Pedophilia" deal is more of an American thing, but Feminists certainly would jack up the AoC to 30 if they could.

@ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty Feminists want to make young and fertile women legally inaccessible to most men, because 1.) Feminists are jealous of young women, and 2.) Feminists want to eliminate as much competition for a meal ticket as they possibly can.

@ChristiJunior
I tried to debate it in here, and when I said: I would accept young year marrige, even if it included a mandatory waiting till the woman grows to 18...

I was still called pedophile, because the guy didn't understand the concept of caring about your wife.

This is the power of that fucking word.

@LukeAlmighty There's no point even trying to engage with people like that on such an issue, because it's too emotional.

@ChristiJunior
Yes. And that is my point with why I actually hate the word now.

@LukeAlmighty It's still a necessary club to beat actual Groomers and child fuckers with.

@ChristiJunior
Obviously

@LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior it also doesnt help that the Word is thrown around by actual kiddy diddlers to hide the skeletons in their closet

@ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty rather, I think it's that discourse has gotten so degraded by so many bad actors. If you argue for anything, it's always absolutely assumed that you're making a self-interested argument. "He wants a lower age of consent so that he can get away with one night stands with younger women."

A nice insight I got from Michael Malice is that the natural state of man is anarchy -- and not in some idealized or some pre-history scenario, not "we would have anarchy if not for all these cops", but "literally right now, *most* things work in an anarchic manner, right now". There are lots of incentives, but ultimately I sleep comfortably at night because none of my neighbors hate my guts. As the joke goes
>call the cops!
>they're not going to un-rape you!
And per this insight, as long as nobody calls the cops, as long as everyone involved is cool with what's happening, it doesn't matter what the laws are. I don't need to cry any tears over some case like a 15 year old and a 25 year old legitimately falling in love and choosing to wait for each other, because they can just do it and not tell anybody. If asked if they've had sex, they can say 'no'. And: why don't you mind your own fucking business?

Naturally if I ever advanced this position in public I would be accused of
1. being a pedophile
2. supporting entire cults and secret societies of pedos

@ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty
>they can just do it and not tell anybody
which also means that the laws can suck. You want a higher age of consent? Go ahead, make it illegal for people under 100 to hold hands. All that will happen is that people will break the law and that instead of ugly divorces where the spouse is accused of molesting the children, there will be ugly divorces where the spouse is acknowledged to have initiated hand-holding at the tender age of 45.

@apropos @ChristiJunior
> As long as noone calls the cops
That's what I hate about the modern law system. It's no longer about what's moral, but what a fat guy in Brusel decided to sign without reading.

And then, as soon as a cop hears about the "crime", even if he agrees, he is forced to ruin my life. And I seriously mean shit, that noone would care about in a sane society. Like flying a drone with more weight then .5 kg. THAT'S NOT IMMORAL, NO MATTER WHO YOU ASK!!!

@LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior Soros is helpfully demonstrating in big cities in the US that if you control the district attorney (elected office that decides how to prosecute crimes and is still given enormous discretion in that because they used to be highly trusted members of society) then you can neutralize whole swaths of written law. A black guy stabbed another black guy? P'shaw, is that even a crime? Get out of here. Mock the cops on your way out so they stop bringing you in for this stuff.

@apropos @ChristiJunior
Well, while I get your point, I disagree with it completely.

The fact, that elites can choose to ignore the law doesn't help me in the slightest. It makes in fact the entire system not only the exact same of oppressive, but now, it's also unpredictable. (Since I cannot be sure, that army will arrest people even if they're sieging an entire city block)

@apropos @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty

> it's always absolutely assumed that you're making a self-interested argument.
I don't think they even assume that. They're just using this as a technique to attack whoever is speaking and one-up him in front of whatever audience the argument is held at.

The effects of having online arguments in front of an audience were well known for a long time now.
Zoommers went a step further and combined it with tying your real name to an avatar.

@laurel @ChristiJunior @apropos
I am not sure what do you mean by the last line.
As far as I know, zoomers are the only ones who even get the idea of nickname.

Trying to explain online anonymity to a boomer is like explaining food to an African.

@LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior @apropos

Well yeah, but between the boomers and the zoomers there are Xers and Yers who were taught ever since they started using the internet to never tie their online identities to their real name and always be wary of the people they meet online.
Zoomers' whole identity is one constructed online through their avatars.
To them having an argument online is an existential fight.

@laurel @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty that definitely happens, but I hope it's not that popular outside of places like reddit where people are hoping the audience will throw appreciate upvotes at them for their petty victories. At least I haven't noticed it as much, and there's a very distinct feeling with them: oh, I'm talking to you, but you're talking to the audience instead of me.

@LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior you mean how they used to do it with betrothal? Where you would be engaged with parental permission and then actually get married later? That sounds aight. As long as nothing is forced/arranged.

@beardalaxy @ChristiJunior
Yes. I do mean that.

@LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior The age of marriage was artificially increased
and pedo was expanded to include teens
instead of pre teens (0 to 13)

NWO2030 needs to happen till
society, men, women and old people
are finally willing to have a open debate
without shutting people down

Self Governance Ethnic Local Patroracy
is the only solution I see for the road ahead

Society Structure
* School - Year 1 to 7 - Community or homeschooling
* Females - marry 16 to 26
* Males - Marry 16 to 46
* Women don't work full-time 26 to 46
* Single Women with no kids can work in a brothel 35 to 45
* We need single men, single women and retired zones

Taking the rights away from women
is the only solution to birth rate issues

Remove
The Pill

Remove
Pussy Pass/Duluth Model

Remove
Bras

Remove
Abortion

Remove
Fake up

Remove
No fault divorce
vagamony
child support
divorce settlement

Allow families to own land

Communities, farms, business to patrol and guard their townships from outsiders, not the ((( STATE)))

@ChristiJunior
My favorite example of just how much lefites care about optics right now (apart from that song) are abortions.

Yes, I believe they are needed. But to say, that is isn't a murder is so far beyond the line, that I cannot believe it, they could possibly say it outloud.

@LukeAlmighty Just a clump of cells is quite the Cope.