if your "rape prevention policy" is "make sure people don't have penises", I don't think transgender people are the problem...
@lottev seriously tho

when I see people argue "they put trans people into womens' prisons and then they rape people" it's like... isn't that kinda on the prison to prevent? it's not like cis women can't assault each other?

@mewmew @lottev
On one hand, I disagree completelly.

On the other hand, prison system is such a trash, that rape is the least of their problems... (as bad as it might sound)

@LukeAlmighty @lottev you don't think it is the responsibility of a prison to prevent inmates from assaulting each other?
@mewmew Yes, and part of that is avoiding scenarios where that is even a possibility. That means not putting men in women's cell's in the first place.

True transexuals are quite rare. What is far less rare in a prison context is men that want to be housed with women for the sexual thrill, or even for the outright opportunity to prey on women.

Around 40% of the known "trans women" in UK prison systems are sex offenders (https://trans-violence.tumblr.com/post/613407247284011008/half-of-all-transgender-prisoners-are-sex). What prison warden in their right mind that is trying to prevent sexual violence would voluntarily house convicted male sex offenders with women in the first place?

@LukeAlmighty @lottev
@dave @LukeAlmighty @lottev so?

there shouldn't be opportunities for prisoners to rape other prisoners - and honestly, there shouldn't be gender-segregated prisons in the first place.

@mewmew @LukeAlmighty @dave @lottev
So solitary confinement for each and every prisoner then? Cause honestly, that's the only true way you can eliminate all opportunities for prisoners to rape one another.

@alyx @LukeAlmighty @dave @lottev anyone not worthy of solitary confinement probably shouldn't be in a prison
@mewmew @alyx @LukeAlmighty @dave @lottev So prisons should exist, but they should consist entirely of something that could easily be classified as torture?
@knotteye @LukeAlmighty @alyx @dave @lottev solitary confinement with the purpose of torture shouldn't exist - only for safety purposes
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@mewmew @LukeAlmighty @dave @lottev @knotteye
The "purpose" doesn't really matter when the outcome is just as bad. Torture is still torture, no matter what you call it.

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@alyx @LukeAlmighty @dave @lottev @knotteye what do you propose should be done with people who are currently in solitary confinement?

@mewmew @LukeAlmighty @dave @lottev @knotteye
For one, I wouldn't condemn everyone to solitary confinement so they can't rape each other.
This entire discussion started because you think there's some magic way to prevent all sexual assaults in prison, which I pointed out can't be done without resorting to something vile.
I'm not here to argue for or against solitary confinement, and I don't appreciate you trying to divert the discussion into this. I don't know what I'd do to eliminate this practice, but that doesn't mean it's acceptable to abuse it just because it's the best thing we can think of using for some very extreme cases.

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