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venting/musing
It's crazy how so many people went from trying to distinguish lolicon from pedophilia to trying to push the idea that they are one in the same. It's just the anti/puritan argument on the opposite side of the coin.
It feels so unnatural to me. I wonder, is this a result of a self-fulfilling prophecy or of labeling theory? Did it start as a glow-op that has now been adopted, marking the operation as a success? Are people afraid of living on the razor's edge so they default to the easiest position that still grants them the ability to feel good about their actions?
Or... was it always like this and I just didn't notice until recently? Am I really just different? Am I alone? I have no interest in children. Pedophiles who like lolicon never seem to believe me when I say that but I still think they are projecting the way they see the artwork onto me and thinking they have the one true way of looking at it. To me, there is a very clear line between what is real and what is fantasy and I really hate when people try and blur that line or try to convince me that they are one in the same. It's a lot worse coming from people who also like lolicon than it is people who just hate all of it. I know there is obviously crossover with pedophiles and lolicons. No shit! When they can't keep things separate though, it just feels... intrusive.
Honestly, I'm quite the emotional person. I see this happening and it makes me sad. It makes me angry. I feel useless. I feel invalid. The people trying to blend pedophile stuff with lolicon genuinely make my heart sink and it's a very visceral feeling. One that sometimes literally keeps me awake at night. Not going to lie... I feel like some entity has broken into my house and made their presence known and there's nothing I can do about it.
I sometimes get a little lost in the sauce and consider just giving up lolicon entirely if this is actually how it is. Though, then, I suppose I'd feel like a failure anyway and do the exact thing I would be critical of. Going to the easiest position that still grants me the ability to feel good about my actions. Something I value a lot about myself is my integrity (some may call it rebellion). I've never been the type to just fall in line, and the times I've felt that I had to have been the worst of my life. The ONLY way I'm going to feel good about my actions is if I'm paving my own way.
I'm going to just try to keep being myself and I'll always do that, even if I have to stand alone. For now, though, I really appreciate anyone who stands with me.
@tomie >it's just the internet used to have less NPCs
well said. i guess this is me realizing that NPCs exist everywhere, not just the obvious opposition.
@beardalaxy
You can like lolicon art without being a pedophile.
You can like furry art without being a zoophile.
You can like horror movies and violent video games without being a killer.
You can like evil characters without agreeing with them irl.
Fiction and reality are NOT one in the same. The people who say otherwise are delusional. But taboo subjects will attract those types of people. Internet anonymity has emboldened irl pedophiles to try and normalize themselves. It's unfortunate.
re: venting/musing
@beardalaxy As the other guy pointed out, there is definitely a push to categorize it as all the same thing so that the system can continue to exploit real children while pointing all its resources at drawings and getting NPCs to cheer on their own enslavement. But that does not preclude the actual communities who like loli art from being populated by retards in the first place.
Or... was it always like this and I just didn't notice until recently? Am I really just different? Am I alone?
Yes. I used to think that loli art referred to art of a particular body type that was like a super-chibi look, which naturally overlapped with a lot of signals for youth and neotony, and that people who liked it were just into that kind of look. A few years ago, I got into a discussion about this on smuglo.li's /a/ board where it seemed like the opposite notion had been pushed or encouraged, and it really surprised me.
"Wait, do you guys really think that all this art you share around is titillating because the characters are specifically designated as underage?"
Duh, yeah.
"But the absolute age of the character isn't present in the art. You don't seriously get off to toddlercon, do you?
Yeah, that's how it works.
"But then that would mean you're all borderline pedophiles. I thought the defense against that accusation was that the stuff you liked was totally detached from reality. You're telling me that it isn't? That you would have no problem with an artist using real CP as reference material?"
lmao. ban this faggot.
Now the board culture of that particular /a/ was always a sewer run by mods with zero accountability, and the cretins who populated the board loved taking mod dick up the ass. But I think that people who just like super-cutesy/neotonic characters have always been the minority, similar to how you can see some absolute pants-on-head retarded behavior normalized by groups of people and assume it's just performative or ironic, and that they don't truly believe it - until you start talking to them with the assumption it's insincere and get rudely awakened by their sincere belief in something obviously wrong or immoral.
one in the same
One AND the same, fucking retard!!!
re: venting/musing
@Hephaestic You mentioning imageboards made me think of imageboard culture as well. It tends to be very edgy. I wonder how many people are like this just because they think it makes them edgy and "cool" in a way, you know? People trying to be as edgy as possible and it ends up infecting their personality. Kind of like teens adopting depression as an aesthetic and then just being stuck like that forever.
re: venting/musing
That angle has definitely fucked up quite a few people over the years, and it did that to me for a while (obsessing over cartoons and video games because it was affirmed through the board culture).
@beardalaxy it's the same gayop it has always been: they try to make ethical fictional thing illegal so they could sell unethical real thing for triple the price AND distract the only people that could truly press charges against them, while NPC condemn the fictional thing to feel good and don't give a fuck that law enforcement resources are wasted on .pngs while the market for human trade flourishes
so don't feel invalid, because a lot of CP trading pedos really want to see "the real deal" behind the .pngs and you make them really pissed off by showing that there's literally nothing
similar thing is with NPC condemning women for their sexualities and daring to display it, except they want to turn women into "legal" commodities from a very and disturbingly early age
and the bigger (or rather more broad) problem is that NPC are unable to distinguish fiction from reality, period, and so we have payment processors cracking down on indie videogames because Detroit showed a fake child being fake killed through 0s and 1s
and it has always been like that, it's just the internet used to have less NPCs