Holy shit I'm so retarded I can't even remember few kana characters 
I think I'm starting to remember them by their key presses, not sounds 
@matrix I learned them with pen and paper. I guess thats the advantage of doing it the oldschool way
@teto yeah, chinese characters are technically more space efficient, but suck to learn and use.
Remembering The Kanji is supposedly a great book for learning kanji and it does seem to systematically break them down quite well, however it uses mnemonics to help you remember which I always found extremely cumbersome. We'll see how kanji goes if I ever get around to it.
@matrix after the 100th mnemonic you just get tired of it. You basically write a story book in your brain and then have to remember it before even properly using it. Not a fan
@matrix if english had something like kanji id still be monolingual
@teto I would probably too
I wish japs would just stick to kanas...