Lolicons are like the retarded "civnats" of pedophilia.
The people they constantly and slavishly appeal to hate them and will never stop calling them pedos, and they're too afraid to be actually based because they so love the mind-prison they made for themselves.
"I'm not a pedophile, I'm a lolicon!!"
"What is the English translation of "lolicon"?"
"N....Wh....N....Not like that!!!!!"
"Yeah, I agree with Romeo-Juliet clauses, and I think there should be awareness of minors having sex with each other before the official "AOC". It is normal, and it shouldn't be considered "pedophilic" to say so."
"ZOMGDOAMGOMG!!!!! He had sex with her when he was 16 and she was 11. Clearly that makes him an adult and he's an evil pedo and I love the authorities, send him to jail!!!!"
Some real principle flip-flopping going on. All to appear like the "normies".
@Aldo2 liking drawings and having contempt for predators, let alone ones who casually joke about their convictions, is based as hell. Why would I care what normies or kid diddlers think? For some kind of allegiance? Nahh I only stand with my 2D brethren
@beardalaxy you have no idea how cringe that post is...
Imagine being a Japanese loli/toddler artist and seeing that.
Absolute cringe.
You don't own what it is to be a "lolicon". You act like you do, but you don't.
Just like CivNats don't own what it is to be a "nationalist".
@Aldo2 @beardalaxy I don't see you speaking Japanese and hanging out in Japanese circles either
I might not be Japanese, but I am an artist and I say: fuck you and go fuck yourself with this shit
my craft is not for you to hide your criminal aspirations behind, and I am not a pedophile and never will be, normies be damned
and yes, I fucking own the 'lolicon' label just as dozens and dozens of artists with "MAPs DNI" in their bios
cope and seethe
In fact, if I remember, I think Comi Lo (which Beard boosted today) even publishes (or published) some Nishi Iori stuff. And it isn't only Nishi Iori. Ironashi, Kereno etc...
So that's a double meta-irony right there hahaha
Nishi Iori can put "pedo" on literally all of his characters, I don't care, and I can do that too: what matters is that Nishi Iori never tried to push an identity I am not onto me in quite rude way, and onto my online frens as well
but you did
I'm not trying to push anything onto you, Matana.
I'm simply saying "lolicons" appeal to normies, who hate them and call them pedophiles.
Pedophiles at least have enough self-respect to not lie to themselves.
This is like one big case of projection.
You WANT lolicon to not be about (cartoon) pron of children (even though it is).
So you project onto me and others that we are the ones "infiltrating" a "craft", even though "lolicon" is inherently about sex with (cartoon) children.
You're just mad that, somewhere out there, a pedophile might be jacking off to your cartoons. Clearly.
@Aldo2 @beardalaxy tattoo it to memorize: I don't appeal to anyone, least of all normies
my art is for me, myself, and I first and foremost, and it is what I want it to be
and I only stand with my 2D brethen :gigachad:
Cool.
That doesn't address my point at all.
You don't speak for all "lolicons". You speak for yourself, as a woman.
"My art is for me"
Well, there you go.
And if you look at the OP, I'm not speaking for "all lolicons" or "all pedophiles". The post was pointing out the hypocrisy and contradictions of many in the "lolicon" community who claim to "represent" lolicons (like you were doing just now, before you said you don't represent anyone).
Also, still no answer on the 3DCG issue...
It's obvious why it's banned on this instance (even though it is considered part of the "lolicon" "craft"), which again, lends to my argument, and not yours.
If 3DCG is "lolicon" but it's banned because it's "too realistic", then, you know, what does that say?
@Aldo2 @matana if you don't like the instance rules or how it operates, again, you are free to go somewhere else. I'm not talking to you as a mod but as a user with an opinion, and matana is a user too. You are free to post your opinions on things (so long as they don't break the rules such as condoning child abuse). Other users are free to criticize. That isn't the instance itself, it's just users.
3DCG, to my knowledge, is banned here because of potential issues with realism. That is Matrix's personal choice. If you dislike that, feel free to go to a different instance that allows it. Personally I think there is still a clear difference in most cases but I can understand not wanting to face issues over that.
Again, let me remind you that even among lolicons who are pedophiles, there are those who will have different opinions on it. I don't think all lolicons are pedos and I don't think all pedos agree 100% with each other on laws regarding children. There is absolutely a clear difference between pro-c and anti-c. There's no monolith of thought and I don't think lolicons are desperate for acceptance either, if anything we just like to laugh at people who get so worked up over drawings.
Like it or not, there are people who can tell the difference between the real and the fictional and there are people who only like the latter, or at the very least only want to look at the latter because they have their own set of morals despite any proclivities. I think it is disingenuous to say the only reason lolicons aren't siding with pedophiles (or in this case, people who have been convicted by a court of law) is because they are dying to be accepted by normies.
I know most normies won't accept it. I know most normies probably have some weird shit they're into too. I mean fuck, there are people who hate loli but get off on watching cartel killings. I don't really care what they think. Likewise, I don't care what pedophiles think about me not wanting to defend certain people or accept a specific age range that I think isn't good. I don't think it's hypocritical at all for me to think that something in real life is abuse even if I enjoy it in fiction, even down to specific cases. I'm not going to throw a blanket over all of it and be like "ohh I enjoy x in drawings, so I can't condemn it in real life!" that's retarded and goes back to the whole point lolicons have. It doesn't matter if some of us are attracted to real children or not, it's where you stand morally.
I share the Comic LO covers because I think they're really well illustrated and beautiful. Don't really care who is drawing them or who is featured in them.