Lolicons are like the retarded "civnats" of pedophilia.
The people they constantly and slavishly appeal to hate them and will never stop calling them pedos, and they're too afraid to be actually based because they so love the mind-prison they made for themselves.
"I'm not a pedophile, I'm a lolicon!!"
"What is the English translation of "lolicon"?"
"N....Wh....N....Not like that!!!!!"
"Yeah, I agree with Romeo-Juliet clauses, and I think there should be awareness of minors having sex with each other before the official "AOC". It is normal, and it shouldn't be considered "pedophilic" to say so."
"ZOMGDOAMGOMG!!!!! He had sex with her when he was 16 and she was 11. Clearly that makes him an adult and he's an evil pedo and I love the authorities, send him to jail!!!!"
Some real principle flip-flopping going on. All to appear like the "normies".
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@Aldo2 liking drawings and having contempt for predators, let alone ones who casually joke about their convictions, is based as hell. Why would I care what normies or kid diddlers think? For some kind of allegiance? Nahh I only stand with my 2D brethren 
@beardalaxy you have no idea how cringe that post is...
Imagine being a Japanese loli/toddler artist and seeing that.
Absolute cringe.
You don't own what it is to be a "lolicon". You act like you do, but you don't.
Just like CivNats don't own what it is to be a "nationalist".
@Aldo2 @beardalaxy I don't see you speaking Japanese and hanging out in Japanese circles either
I might not be Japanese, but I am an artist and I say: fuck you and go fuck yourself with this shit
my craft is not for you to hide your criminal aspirations behind, and I am not a pedophile and never will be, normies be damned
and yes, I fucking own the 'lolicon' label just as dozens and dozens of artists with "MAPs DNI" in their bios
cope and seethe
That photo looks like it was taken from some Western neckbeard's Reddit page, jfc.
The people on virtually every "lolicon" site that I visit are open about their attractions. I'm not saying anything I haven't head or seen hundreds of times.
We had a discussion about this once, years ago, Matana, where I brought up Nishi Iori (toddlercon/loli artist) who literally puts "pedo" on all his "characters'" clothing.
You said that when you tried searching him up, you could only find normal hentai. I told you to type in "toddlercon" after the artist name, and you never replied.
Ah, there we go, I'm a criminal, for thought. I'm a thought-criminal. Oh no!!! Anyway...
Yes, great. What a wonderful "free speech" instance, where the "rules" are "interpreted" (you know, like the KGB did) and you can't speak without someone wanting you banned.
In fact, if I remember, I think Comi Lo (which Beard boosted today) even publishes (or published) some Nishi Iori stuff. And it isn't only Nishi Iori. Ironashi, Kereno etc...
So that's a double meta-irony right there hahaha
Nishi Iori can put "pedo" on literally all of his characters, I don't care, and I can do that too: what matters is that Nishi Iori never tried to push an identity I am not onto me in quite rude way, and onto my online frens as well
but you did
I'm not trying to push anything onto you, Matana.
I'm simply saying "lolicons" appeal to normies, who hate them and call them pedophiles.
Pedophiles at least have enough self-respect to not lie to themselves.
This is like one big case of projection.
You WANT lolicon to not be about (cartoon) pron of children (even though it is).
So you project onto me and others that we are the ones "infiltrating" a "craft", even though "lolicon" is inherently about sex with (cartoon) children.
You're just mad that, somewhere out there, a pedophile might be jacking off to your cartoons. Clearly.
@Aldo2 @beardalaxy tattoo it to memorize: I don't appeal to anyone, least of all normies
my art is for me, myself, and I first and foremost, and it is what I want it to be
and I only stand with my 2D brethen :gigachad:
Cool.
That doesn't address my point at all.
You don't speak for all "lolicons". You speak for yourself, as a woman.
"My art is for me"
Well, there you go.
And if you look at the OP, I'm not speaking for "all lolicons" or "all pedophiles". The post was pointing out the hypocrisy and contradictions of many in the "lolicon" community who claim to "represent" lolicons (like you were doing just now, before you said you don't represent anyone).
@Aldo2 @beardalaxy it quite literally did though, with "Lolicons [broad] are" and then trying to speak for artists in your reply to beard and such, don't even try to backpedal out of this
there are quite literally no hypocrisy or contradictions, no matter how you wish otherwise
me, I might not be able to speak for everyone, but I am sure I speak for many and I speak rightfully
Do you want me to cite the whole post, instead of you just taking 2 words?
Jfc, now you're really pissing me off.
Are you seriously arguing that the lolicon "craft" is not at all about sex with (cartoon) children?
What is it about then? Just some extremely generalized "art"? You know, the other day, a post I made was banned, even though the subject matter is also considered non-sexual "art"...
So you say you don't have those attractions, but then what about the audience who says, I dunno, things like "we want more pedo content" (this is what you get on Japanese artist pages)?
The demand is what drives the production. Not the other way round.
@Aldo2 ideally I want you to apologize but I know better that this never happens on the internet
I don't believe you're interested in listening about the undercover layers of art at all; you are just parroting the same normies you claim to disdain so much: "oh, he shoot up his school because he played GTA": literally the same level of mental gymnastics
I am not "the production" either, btw
@matana apologize for what?
What insult did I say to you?
What the fuck?
School-shootings?
What?
"The production", jfc. I meant audience members (who pay) saying "we want more pedo content" will lead artists to make, drumroll please, pedo content.
I'm not trying to ruin your day. I'm trying to be respectful.
You're the one who came in insulting me and attacking me, along with Beard calling me essentially a "predator".
Look, if you don't like my post, don't interact with it.
What am I supposed to do or say?
You want me to get a freaking lobotomy, come on.
@Aldo2 you called us "like the retarded civnats of pedophilia" and said that we "constantly and slavishly appeal" to normies and that we are "too afraid to be actually based because they so love the mind-prison they made for themselves"
far from anything respectful if you ask me; and you know, I blocked for less
You couldn't tell that I was being facetious, are you serious? I used a meme-photo in the post for crying out loud. I talk about "civnats" (something from fucking 2016).
Your panties are in a twist over that?!?!?!!?
Yes, uh, you're kinda showing that now, appealing to emotion and literally calling me a disgusting criminal, even though I've done nothing wrong except admitting to liking cartoon photos of children, which you admit that you produce.
When I say you're too afraid, this is what I'm talking about.
You have an insane overly emotional reaction to a simple fact: lolicon art is art involving sex with children, and pedophiles like that art and many lolicon or "lolicons" (i.e. people who view the "art") or lolicon artists are open pedophiles.
The "mind-prison", if you can't tell, is litearlly "I'm not a pedophile or have any pedophilic tendencies even though I draw "art" of children having sex with adults or view "art" of children having sex". That is, quite literally, at least to me, a "mind-prison".
I don't block anyone, and I don't want you to block me, because I feel like we got along fine for so many years.
@Aldo2 "I was only pretending to be retarded"
sure thing, and the rest of your accusing diatribes were also "facetious"
what can I say: you played a big stupid game, you won a big stupid prize
Also, still no answer on the 3DCG issue...
It's obvious why it's banned on this instance (even though it is considered part of the "lolicon" "craft"), which again, lends to my argument, and not yours.
If 3DCG is "lolicon" but it's banned because it's "too realistic", then, you know, what does that say?
@Aldo2 @matana if you don't like the instance rules or how it operates, again, you are free to go somewhere else. I'm not talking to you as a mod but as a user with an opinion, and matana is a user too. You are free to post your opinions on things (so long as they don't break the rules such as condoning child abuse). Other users are free to criticize. That isn't the instance itself, it's just users.
3DCG, to my knowledge, is banned here because of potential issues with realism. That is Matrix's personal choice. If you dislike that, feel free to go to a different instance that allows it. Personally I think there is still a clear difference in most cases but I can understand not wanting to face issues over that.
Again, let me remind you that even among lolicons who are pedophiles, there are those who will have different opinions on it. I don't think all lolicons are pedos and I don't think all pedos agree 100% with each other on laws regarding children. There is absolutely a clear difference between pro-c and anti-c. There's no monolith of thought and I don't think lolicons are desperate for acceptance either, if anything we just like to laugh at people who get so worked up over drawings.
Like it or not, there are people who can tell the difference between the real and the fictional and there are people who only like the latter, or at the very least only want to look at the latter because they have their own set of morals despite any proclivities. I think it is disingenuous to say the only reason lolicons aren't siding with pedophiles (or in this case, people who have been convicted by a court of law) is because they are dying to be accepted by normies.
I know most normies won't accept it. I know most normies probably have some weird shit they're into too. I mean fuck, there are people who hate loli but get off on watching cartel killings. I don't really care what they think. Likewise, I don't care what pedophiles think about me not wanting to defend certain people or accept a specific age range that I think isn't good. I don't think it's hypocritical at all for me to think that something in real life is abuse even if I enjoy it in fiction, even down to specific cases. I'm not going to throw a blanket over all of it and be like "ohh I enjoy x in drawings, so I can't condemn it in real life!" that's retarded and goes back to the whole point lolicons have. It doesn't matter if some of us are attracted to real children or not, it's where you stand morally.
I share the Comic LO covers because I think they're really well illustrated and beautiful. Don't really care who is drawing them or who is featured in them.
So now you're saying a minor who is in a relationship with another minor is a "adult child-predator"?
What?
You're the one who said that they support Romeo-Juliet clauses and "close-in age-gap" legislation.
The people in question are even closer in age than my friend and his gf at the time.
You're either an obvious hypocrite, or you're just an idiot.
"Casually makes jokes about their convictions"
Listen to yourself.
"We can't joke about pedophila guys, because it's not based, and actually, you can only like cartoons, but you can't say they're cartoons of children, even though their Japanese artists say they are cartoons of children made for pedophiles blah blah blah *whine* *whine*"
@beardalaxy also, just as a joke, you're ignoring 3DCG loli/toddlercon.
But obviously, that's because "it goes too far" for you, isn't it?
And, pray tell, where is "it" going?
"I'm not a racist, I'm a civic nationalist, it's about "culture"!!!"
"Which group made the culture?"