> WaPo cartoonist arrested for computer-generated AI "CSAM" porn (literally cartoon loli porn that one can find on Pixiv or Baraag or NHentai, or Hitomi or even this instance)
> Post calls or implies that the man is a criminal pedophile
> Poster posts/shares/favorites loli porn on this instance and professes to be a lolicon while totally NOT being a pedophile
Absolute bruh moment...Come on, dude.
Embarrassing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTt8IzilofM&ab_channel=Saltydogy
@Aldo2 the tip comes from the NCMEC, who in the past has told people to stop reporting loli because it is a waste of their resources.
here's an article about the actual law from california: https://a23.asmdc.org/press-releases/20240929-california-criminalizes-ai-enabled-child-sexual-abuse
a lot of governments across the united states and the world are starting to ban this, and it is pretty clear to me that it refers to realistic AI that actually resembles children and is trained on actual children.
this article also states that he had uploaded 134 videos of csam, which is completely different than ai generated images: https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/pulitzer-winning-cartoonist-darrin-bell-arrested-for-child-pornography-details-article-117296411
@beardalaxy you're splitting hairs.
First off, yes, loli porn is obviously fine.
Second, "AI enabled abuse"? Do you have any idea how retarded that sounds? "Not real real abuse".
Laws can be shit. Shit laws are shit. It's not like every law is amazing. If that was the case, there wouldn't have been prosecutions against "loli" porn in the first place.
And what about 3DCG or just 3D in general. Plenty of pretty realistic 3D loli porn on this instance. You're opening a can of worms without even understanding it.
The videos are AI generated. The post that you shared (actual police-statement) stated as such ("computer generated AI images/videos"). The shitty clickbait article you shared in that link just attempts to create drama around it while not clarifying what exactly the content was.
You're clutching at straws.
I don't care whether Prager is Jewish. The post was about Nick and his fucking fanbase.
@Aldo2 you're reading it completely wrong.
1. tip was related to 18 files containing csam
2. further investigation revealed 134 videos of csam
3. warrant is served
4. they find AI CSAM and other related evidence
i thought your post was about prager at first but yeah nick and anyone who actually likes him are retarded too.
AI CSAM is regarded as such because it is trained on actual children and in some cases, actual child porn. it can very easily be abused by taking photos of actual children and using AI to undress them and there are minors who are actually dealing with this sort of trouble in school.
even a place like allthefallen has extremely strict rules on how realistic AI can get. baraag bans realistic AI images. there's a reason for that.
@beardalaxy uh, no.
Again, look at the Sherrif's statement.
"CSAM" IS the "AI CSAM" in the statenent which itself is simply AI porn like 60% of Pixiv lolicon or 3D loli artists. NORMIES THINK LOLICON AND CSAM ARE THE SAME THING YOU DINGUS.
Dude, you're playing dumb with me now.
"Warrant is served" So?
I've never, ever heard of what you describe, and I made a post years ago about how people on Pixiv were doing actual traces of RL CP. That was not AI-generated, that was those people doing that themselves. THAT stuff was actually realistic because it was literally TRACED BY HAND.
Funnily enough, in that post I joked about the BBC just discovering the "pedo" tag but ranting about AI art (which back then was shit anyways, there was nothing "realistic" about it). The pedo tag itself encompasses all the "lolicon" (3D and non-3D) on Pixiv anyways (surprise surprise, Japanese at least are honest). But that's all an aside.
Atf wasn't always like that. They became like that because of shitty laws and the sort of deranged antis which you keep appealing to. Indeed, Atf had to close recently because they were getting DDossed by antis IN SPITE of those rules.
Again, there is PLENTY of 3DCG stuff here and on other instances.
Ever heard of Virtamate?
Come the fuck oooooooooooon...
@beardalaxy there's a guy who does virtamate stuff that I like who's post was taken down because it was "too realistic" and people may have even thought it was real even though it wasn't AI blah blah blah
His post was allowed to return.
He is, at least from my estimation, a pretty popular "lolicon" guy.
@Aldo2 people are not allowed to post/boost realistic 3dcg on this instance. it's on other instances and you can view it from here but that's it. i'm willing to bet it's because matrix doesn't want to get into any hot water.
@beardalaxy that's on the Baraag instance lol, the very same instance that you say has rules against it!
And I pointed out how they reinstated his post!
You guys keep twisting yourselves into pretzels over this shit.
There's a guy who "ages down" pornstars using AI to turn them into children and then posts videos of them from their porn scenes.
Is that AI CSAM?
By your logic, that's even more CSAM-y than AI generated fake people, because the content is literally based on real people.
Or does it not count when the AI "ages down" people "of age" to look like real children?
I really just don't get it.
@Aldo2 i don't think i'm the one twisting myself into a pretzel here lmaooo 
either you're extremely ignorant about how any of this technology works and what the terms mean, or you are shit stirring on purpose
@beardalaxy you know I'm totally open about my pedophilic tendencies.
So I'm not pretzelling at all.
Meanwhile, you post loli content of girls that are cannonically (in whatever cartoon universe they reside in) underage/preteen while saying that you have none of the same tendencies whatsoever.
If I was really serious, I'd demand a FOIA release of the "AI videos" in question, so we could all see them and determine how "realistic" they were.
Again, when the BBC reported "realistic" AI porn on Pixiv it wasn't realistic at all. I would know, because I check Pixiv every morning for some steady-state cardio.
I can still tell the difference between AI (even realistic AI) and actual stuff. That's not to say that AI isn't getting better, but that there is a difference between the two. I think the distinction is important.
It's like how for a while (and still to this day, I think) weed and heroin were both considered schedule 1 drugs. Funnily enough, Fent is classed as schedule 2 (lower than weed, lol) by the DEA.
My main point is that people have got to stop it with these knee-jerk overemotional reactions to stuff.
Those sorts of reactions cause more harm than good.
@Aldo2 i'm not a pedophile, i like cartoon anime girls that come in all shapes and sizes and i'm pretty comfortable in saying that. i don't know what is so hard to understand, if people like project onto that or something. i like the erotic side of it but i also really, really enjoy the actual art itself too. i love seeing the different way artists draw things and their own unique styles. i like their original characters which can have really cool and otherworldly designs. whether or not antis or pedos say i'm a pedo doesn't change what i think about myself so i don't really care about trying to appeal to one or the other. i'm just doing me and that's how it's been pretty much my whole life, always on the outskirts.
maybe we'll find out more information about the guy in the coming months and actually determine whether or not he had legitimate CP or not because that is what it seems like to me. i don't think most AI videos at this point in time are good enough to be considered realistic so i honestly doubt that was the case. both the article and the official police statement only make mention of AI when it comes to the search of his house.
i have unfortunately seen realistic AI on pixiv. and yeah a lot of people using filters on CP and stuff too. it was in a large enough amount that i stopped using it. idk what the state of it is now.