@Jazzy_Butts oh she definitely knows it.

She just gets loads of money for it.

The same way Matt Walsh claims to not be racist but recently defended the woman calling a toddler a nigger.

@Jazzy_Butts @Aldo2 You guys do know she was in a doxing collective with Zoe Quinn before she became a conservative commentator, right? She's an actress, a grifter.

@mrsaturday @Jazzy_Butts

Yeah, the whole point is Brianna Wu and Blaire White are bad people.

I'm not arguing they're good.

I'm arguing them being "Conservative Trans" people is a half-arsed attempt at protecting their "grift".

It's pathetic.

@mrsaturday @Aldo2 I did know that yes I was first introduced to her via the media when she wanted to force everyone on the internet to have to sign up with their real identification info for all accounts and then if anyone says hurtful words she can get them. The bitch is not only an actress, she's not sane.

@Jazzy_Butts @Aldo2 People that buddy up with Zoe Quinn like that, or view doxing as activism tend to not be stable

@mrsaturday @Jazzy_Butts

Water is wet.

The point is these trans people engage in self-hatred because they're afraid of being attacked (both in a real and imagined sense).

They should have stood firm against J. K. and her ilk. Instead, we get what you can see in this thread.

@Aldo2 @Jazzy_Butts Dude, all they ever do is complain about how somebody out there doesn't like them, and there's a large portion of them with murder fantasies for people that disagree with their movement. You can't "stand firm" any more than they already have, the fact of the matter is people have seen what they're about and found them not something they want to defend. What do you want them to do, start to make trans mass shootings even more frequent than they are right now?

@mrsaturday @Jazzy_Butts

I wonder why?

The "trans movement" was not a reaction.

The "anti-trans movement" IS a reaction.

That is the difference.

The hateful ones, the ones who started all this, are the insane anti-trans people.

When people are threatening you with death, conversion therapy, castration etc... how would you respond?

Don't try and gaslight me over the history of the "trans movement".

@Aldo2 @Jazzy_Butts The current trans movement is a reaction to the anti-masculinity push in the 2010s and the cognitive dissonance it created in a lot of vulnerable, aimless young men, particularly autistic ones. They convert people using the same tactics that cults do. It's not like it just popped up out of nowhere, it's a creation. And considering that there's a laundry list of views they're expected to commit to from an ideological standpoint, yes, they are very capable of hate, and there have been shootings where they deliberately hunt Christians in the US for being insufficiently pro-LGBT, Colorado and Nashville being the two examples that come to mind.

People will dislike you, that's just going to happen. You have to accept it, but since most of them are autists looking for a sense of belonging and meaning and viewing the world around them with spite for rejecting them, anyone saying "two genders" is a reason to go. And I don't get why threatening them with castration is such a big deal. The ultimate goal of that movement is self-castration instead. Who cares about that part? If anything offering to castrate them just speeds the process up a little bit. No more of that icky testosterone or toxic masculinity in their veins.

@Aldo2 @Jazzy_Butts But if what others are saying about you is true and you are a chomo, this conversation is over, and I hope to God you don't make good on any of your twisted ideas. Leave the kids alone, tranny.

@mrsaturday @Jazzy_Butts

And I want to be clear here.

I am not justifying mass shootings, which it's clear that you want to imply I would by defending trans people.

Interesting tactic on your part, and quite despicable.

Do I tell you that I link all the murders of innocent non-violent trans people to you and/or your views?

No, I say that one side is reactive. That's it.

@beardalaxy

So you don't like trans people, but for no reason in particular?

You just don't like them, just because?

Are you sure you're not on the same side as J. K. Rowling Feminism?

@Aldo2 you have such a narrow mind that you need to put everything into a soggy box of your own design.

you are missing my point entirely. you do not have to agree with literally everything someone says if you have one opinion that is similar. it is that line of thinking that leads to the collapse of ideologies.

@beardalaxy

Ideologies that suck should collapse, haha

Think of it this way.

If a MAGAchud uses almost exclusively alt-right talking points made by racialists but insists that they aren't "racist", are they thinking "independently" or are they just ignorant as to which "team" they are on?

@Aldo2 you literally cannot think of the world outside of "teams" and "sides" lmao that's hilarious

how would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?

@beardalaxy you're on the "anti-trans" side and you fight against the "trans" side.

You literally made a post about giving puberty blockers to minors earlier.

Again, are you ignorant or trying to gaslight me?

@Aldo2 i don't have a problem with trans people existing. i have a problem with kids undergoing gender treatment. but you lump that second thing in with being anti-trans and that's the whole fucking problem lol, you can't criticize anything about transgenderism without being anti-trans and that's what has gotten people so mad at them.

@beardalaxy you don't have a problem with trans people existing, you just have a problem with trans people existing...

So you're saying you can only be trans once you're 18+?

This is the same logic as kids can only have sex when they're 18.

Ludicrous.

@Aldo2 kids may have gender dysphoria for any number of reasons. that doesn't mean they should be able to undergo HRT or anything else like gender-affirming surgeries.

@beardalaxy what if they ask for it based not on pressure from outside parties but on their own views?

Still "no"?

Well then, you're anti-trans, aren't you?

@Aldo2 @beardalaxy YES

@Kagekokoro @beardalaxy

Yeah then thanks for proving my point that Beard is anti-trans hahaha

Dumbass varishangout guy can't hide it hahahahaha

@Aldo2 @beardalaxy hide what?
when have I hidden my disdain for troons?

@Kagekokoro @beardalaxy

It's not you who is hiding it, it's Beard lol

You're just such an idiot that you can't tell he's trying to claim that he's "moderate" while you're sharing all his arguments and openly saying you "hate troons" hahahaha

@Aldo2 @beardalaxy I HATE TROONS
GAS THEM
GO BACK TO THE END OF THE WEIMAR REPUBLIC

@Aldo2 hard no, children should not be able to have any sort of HRT or gender affirming surgeries. in theory i would support therapy for children with gender dysphoria, but that is only considering that the therapists would actually be fully invested in making sure the child is as objectively mentally and emotionally healthy as possible and i don't believe a lot of therapists actually have that interest in mind.

@beardalaxy lol

Your logic is no different to a RadFem/TERF.

> Therapy

Lol

So you want them to not be trans via therapy before they turn of suitable age to make the decision for themselves?

So you're anti-trans?

> "Objectively mentally and emotionally healthy as possible"

That is only by your own subjective metric, seeing as you just went crazy over UK hospitals allowing children to be given puberty blockers by medical professionals

@Aldo2 @beardalaxy
>"So you're anti-trans?"
Yes. Noose every troon, and protect the children from those disgusting pieces of human trash.

@Ronnie21093 @Aldo2 @beardalaxy

@Ronnie21093 @beardalaxy

Beard, are you seeing this lol?

Are you sure you're not "anti-trans" when these are the guys backing you up?

Absolute bruh moment.

@Aldo2 @beardalaxy >So you want them to not be trans via therapy before they turn of suitable age to make the decision for themselves? So you're anti-trans?

Any remotely moral person is anti-tranny, you fucking pedofaggot.

@ChristiJunior @Aldo2 @beardalaxy Based take

@ChristiJunior @beardalaxy

It's just amazing that these idiots are probably here thinking they're helping you, Beard, but in reality they are proving my position without me making any effort at all.

These are your "allies" in this, and they're vehemently "anti-trans". You calling yourself a moderate or whatever probably will make them call you a nigger troon as well hahahaha

@Aldo2 @beardalaxy My stance on trannies is hardly a big secret around these parts of Fedi, dipshit.

@ChristiJunior @beardalaxy

I'm not saying it's a secret you utter dork!

I'm saying you can't tell that Beard is trying to claim that his position is moderate! You're in here saying nigger this troon that, and there's Beard trying to act like he's "different" while you're here defending him!

You're literally making the situation untenable for Beard.

You're making this worse!

nigger this troon that

@Aldo2 @ChristiJunior this is the exact thing i was talking about though. i do not consider myself to be on some sort of conglomerate just because we share some similar views. trying to squish into a box like that has never worked for me because i value my integrity too much. clearly you still do not understand that whatsoever, which was the entire point i was trying to make.

none of these people here are agreeing with me in lockstep about trans people, they're just here to clown on you for being retarded lol. nobody is "helping me" or backing me up, they just saw you posting because of my reply and wanted to flame you.

you are doing the same exact thing you always do and taking things that i say are my opinions and trying to squish them in some sort of fucked up framework you have full of massive leaps in logic.

@beardalaxy @ChristiJunior

No it's not.

You are using the exact same "lolicon is different!!!!" defense you tried before. You are trying to gatekeep and gaslight.

Uh, yeah they are agreeing with you, lol.

Yes they are, lol.

So you're doing the "I'm different, I'm spweshal, I r unik" shpeel.

Jesus Christ fucking hell, good lord.

This is not a defense anymore, in 2025. It doesn't work.

You are not some special snowflake Beard.

Your arguments are not "independent" ones. They are taken from largely a single specific group. You're trying to pass them off as your own "independent" thoughts. It's so obvious you're gaslighting me.

@Aldo2

Total tranny elimination. No trace of their abominable existence should be left.

@ChristiJunior @beardalaxy

@Leyonhjelm @Aldo2 @beardalaxy I don't think this faggot is a tranny, but he IS a pedophile.

@ChristiJunior

They all look alike to me

@Aldo2 @beardalaxy

@Leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @Aldo2 @beardalaxy YES to all ten.

@Leyonhjelm @ChristiJunior @Aldo2 @beardalaxy 好说，爱说，多说

@Aldo2@gameliberty.club @beardalaxy@gameliberty.club Mister, you better take your queer activism and walk right out of this bar

@beardalaxy @Aldo2 any therapist that accepts gender dysphoria as a real condition will try to troon the child out as soon as possible
seen it happen, no questioning if there might be other underlying issues that fuel the incorrect notion of dysphoria, just trying to get the process started asap and shove pills down the childs throat and roll them into the OR

@BlinkRape @Aldo2 @beardalaxy

dont forget throw a troon off a rooftop

@beardalaxy you call it "narrow thinking", but in reality I'm taking a scalpel to the "ideology" which you apparently follow.

I'm being surgical.

@Aldo2 you take ideas and cut them down in order to fit into your narrow world view.

@beardalaxy yeah, that's called being pragmatic and a realist, lol

I freely admit that my own wordview is a collection of differing ideologies.

@Aldo2 "zone is MAP-coded because they made porn of fictional teenagers" and "if you agree with jk rowling on one singular thing you are a radical TERF" is not realistic thinking.

@beardalaxy what?

Keep on topic instead of trying to deflect.

Almost all the arguments you make against trans people are the exact same as J.K. and her group (TERF/RadFems - Feminists).

In fact, your arguments against minors or MAPs are also arguments made by J.K. tier radfems, but that's not related to the trans issue at the heart of this, so I'll set that aside.

@Aldo2 yeah, and?? i can have an opinion without being on a side. i'd say you are a fucking retard if you think that way, but i've already said you are numerous times so i don't think that'd be accomplishing much.

@beardalaxy

Oh boy, I've upset you again, haven't I?

"I'm not on any sides!"

What next, are you going to say you're a "libertarian" or something?

Come on.

You're obviously on the anti-trans side, you're just afraid to openly admit it for some strange reason.

At least others own their position. You're fence-sitting (still leaning more to one side than the other) and thinking you're better than everyone else.

@Aldo2 you have absolutely no semblance of nuance

@beardalaxy @Aldo2 does that surprise you? the HRT has seeped deep into the brain

@beardalaxy @Aldo2
I apparently had this Aldo faggot muted already, but if he's scraping the bottom of the barrel to claim that Zone is a pedo then he's even more retarded than I thought.