@shebang @dave @matrix Crossdressing and homosexuality seem to have an extreme overlap, in men. It's extremely rare to find a straight man who's into crossdressing. Or, maybe straight men just refuse to admit it, because it's seen as "gay"? Who knows. Women who dress like men despite being straight are far more common, but then again, for women, crossdressing is much less fetishized. It's almost normal for women to wear most traditionally male clothes, aside from a handful of things, like some suits.

@Galena @dave @matrix Yeah that seems to be true. Its a little outside of my area where I'd know much about the topic though.

@dave @Galena @matrix I like the way David just had this info off the cuff. :)

@dave @shebang @matrix Dickgirls have boobs 99% of the time. And yeah, there is some good trap on female stuff, but nowhere near enough. Most of it isn't even particularly good traps, but then again, my taste in traps leans a little more masculine than most people's.

@Galena @shebang @matrix

You're right, my bad. I never use those tags, and confused dickgirls with normal traps.

The tag for a male that could be mistaken as female is "tomgirl". You can include "crossdressing" in your search, although that will also include results for normal men that are dressed up temporarily and aren't actually traps (there's a Chapter from the "Take on Me" series that comes to mind).

Try "tomboy -yaoi" without the quotes for a starting point for the results you're looking for.

@Galena @dave @shebang @matrix well yeah. Its no fun if they're just girls without boobs and vee vee

@dave @Galena @shebang @matrix that's not the same. Dickgirl or futa is not otokonoko

@Eidolon0 @Galena @matrix @dave Well I'm not gonna ask.

@shebang @Galena @matrix @dave what do you mean? I edit eroge.

@shebang @Eidolon0 @Galena @matrix

It's a Japanese word that's very similar to 'trap' as we're using it now

@shebang @Eidolon0 @Galena @matrix

And I checked the EH wiki just now for clarity.

Tomgirl roughly means trap
Dickgirl means "female" except she has a penis instead of a vagina
Futanari means a "female" with a penis *and* a vagina

@dave @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix "Tomgirl" is SJW cancer that should not, under any circumstances, be used, accepted, or normalized.

@Galena @dave @Eidolon0 @matrix er, it is? I need an explanation here.

@shebang @dave @Eidolon0 @matrix SJWs infested hentai sites and whined, constantly, that "trap" was a transphobic slur, and demanded that all tags associated with traps, crossdressing, dickgirls, etc, get renamed to politically correct alternatives (that usually don't even mean the same thing) because they get pissed off that words don't mean what they want them to mean

@Galena @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix

They still use crossdressing and dickgirls, though. How do you even try to reconcile social justice with fucking hentai?

@dave @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix They want to get dickgirl rebranded, too. They use "tomgirl" as an entry point - they've done this exact same thing on other sites, and now they're attempting it on EH too.

@Galena @dave @shebang @matrix rebranded to what?

@Eidolon0 @shebang @matrix @dave Gynomorph

@Galena @shebang @matrix @dave oh jesus

@Galena @Eidolon0 @matrix @dave Oh its silly.

@Galena @shebang @matrix @dave wait that makes no sense. There's no vagina involved

@Eidolon0 @shebang @matrix @dave They're SJWs. Nothing they do makes sense.

@Galena @Eidolon0 @shebang @matrix

Now hang on, why were you complaining about a lack of good art, then? If there's good art, you can probably find it on EH

@dave @Eidolon0 @shebang @matrix Because there's extremely little good art. Trust me, I'm basically a porn addict - I've seen just about every good trap-on-female doujin there is, and I can assure you, there are less than you think.

@Galena @dave @Eidolon0 @matrix

Out of curiosity, Galena, which kind of enby are you?

@shebang @Galena @Eidolon0 @matrix

Male as I recall. I think we discussed it some time back

@dave @Galena @Eidolon0 @matrix Nooooo that doesn't make sense.

@shebang @dave @Eidolon0 @matrix Short answer: I don't know

Less short answer: the kind that hates their biological gender but also thinks SRS is a glorified band-aid for a mental disorder which won't actually help them whatsoever and refuses to transition because of that. The kind that formerly identified as "transgender" but got ostracized from pretty much every LGBT community they tried interacting with for "internalized transphobia", attempted to convince themselves they were actually cis all along, then had a breakdown and realized that actually everything's a fucking nightmare and they have no idea what they are anymore, so they slap a "nonbinary" label on themselves in the hope that maybe it'll help them figure out what they are.

@Galena @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix

Do you follow any detransitioners?

@dave @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix Nope.

@Galena @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix

They're becoming way more common as a result of this new environment that makes it way too easy for GNC kids to get pushed onto a pathway to transition (which may include SRS but might have stopped at hormones or puberty blockers). I wish I could give specific recommendations, but I'm not suffering from any gender dysphoria and the few detrans people I'm aware of are all formerly FtM. Maybe @MandyJane or @ninapaley knows a few?

@Galena @shebang @dave @matrix the whole gay and trans community is just arse, quite frankly. for people who want to be accepted, they are the most judgemental, catty, manipulative, petty people I've ever had the misfortune to meet.

@Eidolon0
Yeah they really to suck the bag.

But the neat thing though, is that since the more interesting and free thinking (or dare I say "normal") lgbt people get booted out of the safe spaces they end up here in the cool fedi.

@Galena @matrix @dave

@shebang @Galena @matrix @dave I'm ashamed to admit i was an lgb activist once.

@shebang @Eidolon0 @Galena @matrix

I knew a few cool people on Twitter that were either Gay or Bi. The openly (but only moderately) Conservative gay guy eventually got banned. Really hoping he discovers the greater Fediverse eventually, because he had mastered the art of snark, and would have a lot more fun on social media were it not for the SJW policies.

@Galena @dave @shebang @matrix maybe... take a break? porn can alter your perception of reality tbh.

@Eidolon0 @shebang @matrix @dave Are you telling me I can't actually get fucked by twelve dragons at once in real life? That's bullshit. I don't believe it.

@Galena @Eidolon0 @shebang @matrix

You could if you were a car.

Shoutout to http://reddit.com/r/DragonsFuckingCars

@Galena @shebang @matrix @dave not entirely what I meant. I know that in some individuals, it alters their perception of what real people should look like, and their standards become too high.

@Galena @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix

Imagine living such a sad and meaningless life that you actually spend time and energy getting the names for tags changed.

@dave @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix Trigger the nazis, own the nazis.

@Galena @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix

I wouldn't put too much stock in the importance of the names for the tags.

@dave @Galena @Eidolon0 @matrix Eh, yeah. I'm not sure I am into that. I don't like the SJW's dictate what words I can or cannot use.

@shebang @dave @Galena @matrix no one should be able to dictate it

@dave @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix I absolutely fucking hate the idiots who claim "trap" is transphobic, and using their "politically correct" bullshit terms is just enabling them to erase a niche minority they despise. I refuse to enable people I hate to erase me.

@Galena @dave @Eidolon0 @matrix Oh just think everything is transphobic. Bunch of dingbats. :sjw:​