@dirb
You can try but you can't replace cvcvcv

@shebang @matrix

I mean, traps have always been a thing. A lot of gay men skew feminine, and there's a lot of crossover between feminine gay men and trans women that are attracted to men

What's in between those two? Probably a feminine gay man that presents as a woman but doesn't consider himself one, i.e. a trap.

@dave @matrix Yeah but the point is anime makes you into a gay trap.

Maybe.

@shebang @matrix

Well, we do know that homosexuality isn't entirely hereditary. Early life experiences and your childhood environment can help shape it as well.

If you watch shows that glamorize women in that way, it makes sense that you'd be more likely to turn out that way.

@shebang @matrix

Also, I'm glad we can agree that traps are gay 😉

@dave @shebang @matrix Not if they exclusively fuck girls.
Why is there no good trap on female art? Fuck this gay bullshit, straight trap is the best.

@Galena @dave @matrix Oh yeah well I guess, but I've never actually seen the theoretical straight trap. MTF trans who are still into F exclusively, sure, but never what you'd call a "trap".

Wonder why...

@shebang @dave @matrix Crossdressing and homosexuality seem to have an extreme overlap, in men. It's extremely rare to find a straight man who's into crossdressing. Or, maybe straight men just refuse to admit it, because it's seen as "gay"? Who knows. Women who dress like men despite being straight are far more common, but then again, for women, crossdressing is much less fetishized. It's almost normal for women to wear most traditionally male clothes, aside from a handful of things, like some suits.

@Galena @dave @matrix Yeah that seems to be true. Its a little outside of my area where I'd know much about the topic though.

@dave @shebang @matrix y'all should throw money at me so I can throw money at artists to draw porn of a cute trap fucking women.

@Galena @shebang @matrix

There's actually plenty. E-hentai.org (and other sites as well) has an extensive and well-defined tagging system so you can find the content you're looking for. If you're looking for "trap on female" content, the tag you want is "dickgirl on female".

@dave @Galena @matrix I like the way David just had this info off the cuff. :)

@dave @shebang @matrix Dickgirls have boobs 99% of the time. And yeah, there is some good trap on female stuff, but nowhere near enough. Most of it isn't even particularly good traps, but then again, my taste in traps leans a little more masculine than most people's.

@Galena @shebang @matrix

You're right, my bad. I never use those tags, and confused dickgirls with normal traps.

The tag for a male that could be mistaken as female is "tomgirl". You can include "crossdressing" in your search, although that will also include results for normal men that are dressed up temporarily and aren't actually traps (there's a Chapter from the "Take on Me" series that comes to mind).

Try "tomboy -yaoi" without the quotes for a starting point for the results you're looking for.

@Eidolon0 @Galena @matrix @dave Well I'm not gonna ask.

@shebang @Eidolon0 @Galena @matrix

It's a Japanese word that's very similar to 'trap' as we're using it now

@shebang @Eidolon0 @Galena @matrix

And I checked the EH wiki just now for clarity.

Tomgirl roughly means trap
Dickgirl means "female" except she has a penis instead of a vagina
Futanari means a "female" with a penis *and* a vagina

@dave @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix "Tomgirl" is SJW cancer that should not, under any circumstances, be used, accepted, or normalized.

@Galena @dave @Eidolon0 @matrix er, it is? I need an explanation here.

@shebang @dave @Eidolon0 @matrix SJWs infested hentai sites and whined, constantly, that "trap" was a transphobic slur, and demanded that all tags associated with traps, crossdressing, dickgirls, etc, get renamed to politically correct alternatives (that usually don't even mean the same thing) because they get pissed off that words don't mean what they want them to mean

@Galena @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix

They still use crossdressing and dickgirls, though. How do you even try to reconcile social justice with fucking hentai?

@dave @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix They want to get dickgirl rebranded, too. They use "tomgirl" as an entry point - they've done this exact same thing on other sites, and now they're attempting it on EH too.

@Eidolon0 @shebang @matrix @dave Gynomorph

@Galena @Eidolon0 @matrix @dave Oh its silly.

@Galena @Eidolon0 @shebang @matrix

Now hang on, why were you complaining about a lack of good art, then? If there's good art, you can probably find it on EH

@Galena @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix

Imagine living such a sad and meaningless life that you actually spend time and energy getting the names for tags changed.

@dave @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix Trigger the nazis, own the nazis.

@Galena @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix

I wouldn't put too much stock in the importance of the names for the tags.

@dave @Galena @Eidolon0 @matrix Eh, yeah. I'm not sure I am into that. I don't like the SJW's dictate what words I can or cannot use.

@dave @shebang @Eidolon0 @matrix I absolutely fucking hate the idiots who claim "trap" is transphobic, and using their "politically correct" bullshit terms is just enabling them to erase a niche minority they despise. I refuse to enable people I hate to erase me.

@Galena @dave @Eidolon0 @matrix Oh just think everything is transphobic. Bunch of dingbats. :sjw:​

@dave
I've always interpreted the trap question to refer to the gayness of the viewer, not the subject. Am I wrong?
@shebang @matrix

@ned @dave @matrix Well they are both gay. lol

@shebang
If they are both gay that definately simplifies the trap issue.... I think 🤔
@dave @matrix

@ned @shebang @matrix

It's not gay if the penis is feminine.

@dave
No no, don't get into the whole "girldick". It's weird. It's weird that people say that.
@ned @matrix

@shebang @ned @matrix

True Story, I looked that comic I posted up because that conversation reminded me it existed, but that version I posted wasn't the original.

The original comic, that I saw on reddit years ago when "are traps gay" was the hot topic, didn't have Patrick saying "It's not gay if he looks like a girl", but "It's not gay if the penis is feminine". That's what I was referencing.

@ned @shebang @matrix

No, you're correct, this was just banter that was referencing the conversation we had yesterday about whether or not traps are gay -

https://freespeech.host/@shebang/103678562705751048

@dave @matrix My suspicion is actually that bisexuality is just more common than people think.

But yeah lol traps are the totes ghey.

@shebang @matrix yeah, you're largely correct. While sex isn't a spectrum, sexuality certainly is. A good chunk of straight people are just straight-ish, and in the right environment could easily have been bi.