@FloatingGhost It's a huge O, much larger than a human mouth can normally make, that entire meme is about mouths in huge O shapes. What's "telling" about that?
@timorl I'm fine with saying that 4chan are white supremacists for the sake of argument.
But thats kinda the point. They never used it seriously to signal anything about them being white supremacist.
They saw a symbol that was so mind boggling common (something people use many times a day, literally everyone, akin to waving hello) and said "watch how we can manipulate them to absurd extrems.
Their intention was to take a gesture so common by convincing people it was a symbol of racism so people would start accusing ordinary innocent people of racism, specifically to cause non-racists to be antagonistic and hateful towards eachother, ot ensure people who are reasonable and going "guys this is a common hand gesture" are called racist and ultimately come to hate their fellow anti-racists.
The truth is there is a very very small handful of legitimate cases where white supremacists used it to signal racism. Virtually non-existent. Yet a bunch of white supremacists or trolls were able to manipulate a whole nation to act exactly the way they wanted. They were in control and they got the exact effect they wanted.
They never adopted the symbol, they only manipulated people into thinking they did, thats the key.
It says a lot more about the people they could manipulate to act exactly the way tehy intended than anything else.
@FloatingGhost why is it doing the face
@coolboymew finally, girls can eat McDonald's now too
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@sim I believe every system - including anarchism - has potential to be abused and corrupted, and that eventually someone will abuse it and corrupt it. Everything ends in tyranny if it lasts long enough. The main question is, how long does each system usually take to reach that point? Which systems are the most resilient to turning into a tyranny? And then, how much freedom is it okay to trade away for this resilience - at what point does the freedom you're trading away now outweigh the freedom you're potentially preserving by slowing down the slide into tyranny? These are very difficult questions to answer, and I'm sure the answers vary greatly from person to person.
In the end, everything ends with someone trying to oppress someone else and take away their freedom.
@mewmew @nerdman i dunno i think its pretty obvious 3 months locked in has put a lot of people on edge
I dont think any one in general came out of this healthier or happier if we are keeping it just to corona lock downs
Also all that ‘locking down’ has become completely for moot at this point
but sure ya environments doing great i guess
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I have no respect for american cops, every single one of them, without exception, is a bad cop. If they werent they would have arrested their colleagues and been fired already.
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