i have yet to try ketamine, salvia, mdma, uh... what else
@opal Salvia is quite painful for most people, fractal triangles ripped my body apart for a few minutes.
@Jazzy_Butts to put it into perspective, datura is also on my bucket list but this is probably only gonna happen like a decade or so from now
@opal Datura is a meme. Yes people used it, still a meme. It's not an actual psychedelic it's a deliriant, it causes Insanity not psychedelia, because it is toxic. Taking datura is about as smart as dehydrating oneself until one hallucinates. But it's your right and I don't care what you do, just trying to help.
@Jazzy_Butts @opal datura dosing is also gambling with your life, since the toxicity is very variant
other deliriants are "safer" but ime they are weirdly addictive. buy as little as possible so you dont redose
other deliriants are "safer" but ime they are weirdly addictive. buy as little as possible so you dont redose
@cummies @Jazzy_Butts this is why i only want to do it in my much later years if at all
@opal @Jazzy_Butts yeah i get that. in all honesty, your brain can likely recover from anticholinergic toxicity more easily when in your 20s. considering anticholinergic links with dementia, i would avoid after age 40 for sure
@cummies @Jazzy_Butts very reasonable, i mean ive been delirious before so i basically know what its like. i would pretty much only do it if i had a death wish or a terminal illness anyway
@opal @Jazzy_Butts if i have terminal illness im going dxm or opioids to my grave personally lol
@cummies @Jazzy_Butts dxm's meh the couple of times i done it
@opal @Jazzy_Butts i hear its shitty for like 1/3 of people. i had complete ego death on it and had to rebuild myself lol
@Jazzy_Butts @cummies ive been chronically dissociative so we have a different relationship with it. i dont see dissociation as inherently uncomfortable, but i dont see it as a relief either
@Jazzy_Butts @cummies seeing this thread play out, it seems like you two have way fewer experiences with different states of consciousness than i do. i do appreciate the warning about datura causing neurological degeneration, that is actually a concern, but the rest of it i think you all genuinely dont know how deep ive went lol
@Jazzy_Butts yeah sorry i guess im mostly talking about @cummies then
@Jazzy_Butts @cummies like, you couldnt have assumed prior to this how i may react to salvia. from what i hear its a fairly unpredictable substance anyway
@opal @Jazzy_Butts i havent actually taken all that much, you're correct, but i did go very deep with that dxm trip fwiw. i cant go into detail about it here but i hit 4th plateau lol
@cummies @Jazzy_Butts i think ive experienced elements of 4th plat on other drugs already
