When people call gaza getting roflstomped for what hamas did, hamas who they support, a genocide, I don't think they understand what a genocide is. Blowing up some buildings and burying suspected fighters is not a genocide even if it might be a warcrime. All gaza has to do is surrender, there are and have always been arabs in israel and they get along fine, gaza and hamas are assholes. Not a genocide. Fuck you.
@Jazzy_Butts 28k civilian fatalities and 2k possible fighter fatalities doesn't ring alarm bells in your mind? Glad you aren't in any positions of power :/

@ROYALTY @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business I haven't bothered looking at the numbers, but I blame every one of those deaths on Hamas.

@Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY @Jazzy_Butts well do research then because this issue and the mass displacement and genocide of palestinian arabs dates back much MUCH farther than october 7, 2023 and while i don't directly support hamas they're literally the closest thing to any kind of liberation force palestine has

for future reference, if you wanna talk about issues like these *and be taken seriously* then look at some numbers and, most especially, history. israel had already occupied way more land than just what palestine was as far back as the 40s, 50s, and 60s when they occupied parts of syria (which they still claim), and egypt (the sinai peninsula was returned after years of occupation)

these are delicate matters with decades (and in the case of the levant in general, centuries and millenia) of complex history and boiling it down simply to "israel attacking gaza because of hamas" is, quite frankly, pure ignorance on your behalf.
@pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY I guess they must be keeping all those Israeli pride parade massacres secret because Israel looks like the only middle eastern country where people are allowed to be fucking gay.
@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts irrelevant, nobody is telling you to support hamas. What we're trying to tell you is that support for the past and current Israeli régimes isnt compatible with any sort of humanitarian or anti colonialist theory. But if you want support a gay accepting oppressive state, that on you. Just know that this same disregard and blind support is what lead up to the genocides of the 20th century.

@ROYALTY @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business Sorry hamas fa and fo, if israel had done the inverse and parachuted rapists into gaza and gang raped children in the streets and hamas blew the fuck out of Israel and killed everyone I'd be on their side. None of you are going to fucking convince me. This is not about groups, I am opposed to rapist pigs who proudly display their barbarism.

@Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts Russia showed footage that a good portion of the killings on oct 7th was by Israeli soldier basically shooting at random, to which Israel said it couldn't say they didn't kill anyone that day

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Show proof of the rapes, because else it's just a rumour

@Sp @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY You can see proof if you look on twitter, one woman was bleeding from her anus. But you knew that because you don't live under a rock.

@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY I do not use twitter

Show the proof because I have no reason to trust your word

What I do know is the lies Israel tells to justify a by the book genocide

@Sp @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY I don't do this proof shit, we either speak in good faith or you can suck one for all I care. I could be wrong but I believe muzzies have raped and if you say you don't believe my word about what I believe then you're calling me a liar and I'll have no reason to interact with you.

@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY Speaking in good faith means providing proof. I can source every single one of my claims or else I don't claim at all

To refuse to provide proof is literally bad faith argumentation

@Sp @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY I can't provide proof of a belief. I BELIEVE there were rapes. I could be wrong. Second time saying that now.

@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY If you have seen footage you have proof
This it's not simply a belief but a fact
Thus you can show proof and is withholding for no reason at all

@Sp @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY I'm not withholding, you can easily go look, keywords like "hamas rape sweatpants jeep" will show you on twitter.

@Jazzy_Butts @Sp @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY Just gonna reiterate, there probably were rapes. It doesn't matter. Every army rapes. If you think they're just mass raping for fun then I think you're buying into serious emotional propaganda.
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@luwa @pedmaus @Sp @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY They are mass raping for "fun" in the sense that they are attempting to send a powerful message, yes. And all armys rape, yes, and it does matter, even though everyone does it. If everyone murders murder is still wrong.

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