When people call gaza getting roflstomped for what hamas did, hamas who they support, a genocide, I don't think they understand what a genocide is. Blowing up some buildings and burying suspected fighters is not a genocide even if it might be a warcrime. All gaza has to do is surrender, there are and have always been arabs in israel and they get along fine, gaza and hamas are assholes. Not a genocide. Fuck you.

@Jazzy_Butts 28k civilian fatalities and 2k possible fighter fatalities doesn't ring alarm bells in your mind? Glad you aren't in any positions of power :/

@ROYALTY @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business I haven't bothered looking at the numbers, but I blame every one of those deaths on Hamas.

@Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY @Jazzy_Butts well do research then because this issue and the mass displacement and genocide of palestinian arabs dates back much MUCH farther than october 7, 2023 and while i don't directly support hamas they're literally the closest thing to any kind of liberation force palestine has

for future reference, if you wanna talk about issues like these *and be taken seriously* then look at some numbers and, most especially, history. israel had already occupied way more land than just what palestine was as far back as the 40s, 50s, and 60s when they occupied parts of syria (which they still claim), and egypt (the sinai peninsula was returned after years of occupation)

these are delicate matters with decades (and in the case of the levant in general, centuries and millenia) of complex history and boiling it down simply to "israel attacking gaza because of hamas" is, quite frankly, pure ignorance on your behalf.

@pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY Ok sorry I picked the side that doesn't want to throw me off a roof.

@Jazzy_Butts @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY both sides would do so in a heartbeat, actually

@pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY I guess they must be keeping all those Israeli pride parade massacres secret because Israel looks like the only middle eastern country where people are allowed to be fucking gay.

@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts irrelevant, nobody is telling you to support hamas. What we're trying to tell you is that support for the past and current Israeli régimes isnt compatible with any sort of humanitarian or anti colonialist theory. But if you want support a gay accepting oppressive state, that on you. Just know that this same disregard and blind support is what lead up to the genocides of the 20th century.

@ROYALTY @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business Sorry hamas fa and fo, if israel had done the inverse and parachuted rapists into gaza and gang raped children in the streets and hamas blew the fuck out of Israel and killed everyone I'd be on their side. None of you are going to fucking convince me. This is not about groups, I am opposed to rapist pigs who proudly display their barbarism.

@Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts what the fuck are you on?

You know what those pieces of shit done recently? THEY BOMBED A KINDERGARDEN. THEY'RE BOMBING HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS AND "SAFE ZONES". They want to massacre all of Palestince to make their own shitty ass country.
https://twitter.com/NourNaim88/status/1753910325735268599
https://x.com/stairwayto3dom/status/1754551724642128274?s=20
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1752290555554660503?s=20
https://x.com/ashoswai/status/1754051971055518065?s=20

@Kiri @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY BLAME HAMAS FOR ILLEGALLY USING THOSE CIVILIAN CENTERS FOR MILITARY OPERATIONS

@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY NO, I WILL BLAME ISRAEL FOR MURDERING INNOCENT CHILDREN.

@Kiri @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY If someone takes a child and puts it between themselves and a bear and then they piss the bear off, you would say the bear killed the child, not their terrible parent? I would blame the terrible parent, the bears reaction would be expected.

@Jazzy_Butts @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY You're just now saying shit. What the fuck do you mean. This allegory doesn't work because in what way there's a justification for a person to kill a child

@Kiri @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY No idea what confuses you about my analogy. I don't understand why their motive matters at all to you. Do you think the child is Israel in this analogy? The child is their own children they are using as shields.

@Jazzy_Butts @Kiri @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts you are denying Israel it's agency with that comparison. Israel isn't a raging bear and if it was it would be put down like any other dangerous animal. Israel is a supposedly modern nation that prides itself on being a safe home for the Jews. By continuing its colonial ambitions and disregard for humanitarian law it fails in being a modern nation and protecting the Jews whilst making it the belligerent.

@ROYALTY @Kiri @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business No it fails in being cucked and PC, hamas can surrender at any time, they are murdering children until they do so.

@Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY @Kiri @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts They offered surrender, Israel asked for what amounts to annexation and given that Israel commits crime against humanity and genocide against palestinians inside its own borders, what reason do they have to surrender

Knowing what israel does to palestinians, if I was one, I'd rather die fighting than ever surrender

@Sp @Kiri @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY If I were Palestinian I would fucking leave or kill myself.

@Jazzy_Butts @Sp @pedmaus @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY >I would fucking leave
where lmfao? they can't go anywhere

@Kiri @pedmaus @Sp @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY which is why I would have no opinion but to risk my life trying to escape and maybe die, or die for sure at my own hand, but I wouldn't want to starve to death or die in some traumatic event.

@Jazzy_Butts @Kiri @pedmaus @Sp @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY So what you're saying is that being born in Palestine is horrible, and you'd literally have to fight your way just to get out. Maybe, this could be a reason why things are happening the way they are. Hmmm

@luwa @Kiri @pedmaus @Sp @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY Yes probably, finally we agree.

@Jazzy_Butts @Kiri @pedmaus @Sp @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY So, we agree on the fact Palestine has legitimate reasons to act, but because they actually are doing something about it they're the bad guys?

@luwa @Kiri @pedmaus @Sp @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY Yes, but not just "something", the "wrong thing". If they had done the "right thing" I would be on their side with everyone else right now.

@Jazzy_Butts @Kiri @pedmaus @Sp @Jazzy_Butts @ROYALTY They would never have been able to do the 'right thing' against Israel. Its basically impossible, civilians would die no matter what.

@luwa @Kiri @pedmaus @Sp @Jazzy_Butts@monk.ey.business @ROYALTY I mean the right thing would be to negotiate an incorporation into israel. Israel HAS Muslims in it, and they coexist.