@mario I like death grips T-T
@prouddegenerate PORN CROSSOVER YOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@SoyMagnus @jojo Lol wow you guys are so free speech lmao
@jojo @SoyMagnus Jewish mald, I bet you believe in round earth maldy
@jojo @SoyMagnus hehe mald
@mario I have a feeling I'm going to meet the future Mrs. Jazzy here.
@alyx I have been with enough trans girls that I can tell pretty much now. It's not even conscious. It's a gut feeling. I can just tell when someone was born with a pussy or cock, and very rarely am I fooled. It's not just face shape or body shape, it's also facial expression and posture.
I've been feeling this way a lot lately, I wish everyone was a girly faggot and were sassy
@mario @prouddegenerate I'm not either but I've been told I'd be good at it, but I'm lazy and don't want to go to boring school.
Anyway, I hear you, and I agree. Context is everything though.
>A woman sobbing
>Gang member with gun on her asks if she likes it
>She chokes out yes while sobbing harder, crying for god
In this situation she said yes, verbal consent was given, yet this situation is non consensual. Clear as day.
Second, contrary example
>Deaf mute woman is with her boyfriend, neither understand sign language and she can't write
>They are cuddling watching a movie
>She paws his crotch, he looks at her, surprise and glee on his face
>She taps his crotch knowingly, then taps her open mouth, then makes a quizzical expression as if asking
>He nods happily and she helps him unzip
>Blowjob ensues
No verbal consent was given, yet this was not rape
@mario @prouddegenerate I get it, your reasoning is not unsound, but it raises the question, what about humans who have lost the ability to speak or write? They are fully aware of what is going on and even understand words, should it be illegal for this person to have any sexual activity with anyone not like them? Not allowed to love someone able to speak and write, since they would be incapable of expressing consent? But there's the rub (part 2 boogaloo), I don't think they're incapable of expressing consent, because I don't believe consent is in speech, consent is in action, it is momentary and it is fluid and it changes. Communication is in more than speech it is in a caress as well.
@alyx *unzip*
@mario @prouddegenerate Ok fair, and your analogies make sense, but I don't see rubbing female scent hormones on ones self and bending over and allowing (not even verbally coaxing or moving, motionless silence, throughout) a male to mount and penetrate as abusive. Now I don't know what this guy did, and it could have been some fucked up shit for all I know. I'm just defending the idea of animal human sex having the potential to be non abusive. If animals can't consent, sex can still at least be non abusive, but only when it is in service of the animal. I would love to have a big husky wuskie I could jack off any time he needed with a doggie fleshlight, since my booty probably couldn't take him, and I wouldn't think that was abusive at all, and would feel embarrassed that I have to keep such dog petting techniques to myself.
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