@Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy

@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty not me. You argue in bad faith.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty Not really, you just make logical leaps and I don't respect them enough to entertain. Maybe if you had said "Yes we're brainwash kids but we're doing it THE RIGHT WAY" we could talk because that'd be honest, instead you fag out and say O YA WELL TRANNIES CUT KID DICKS!!!!! I'm pretty sure traditionalists have cut more kid dicks than anyone on earth. And trannies don't cut kid dicks. Kids don't transition medically. Get over it. Keep holding up the one or two freaks who did it really young as if that proves any kind of point.

@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty who says I'm even brain washing kids or think circumcision is good? Your head is on upside down. You're comparing people who like loli to religious nut jobs for some reason which makes 0 sense.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty I'm doing it because the comic isn't just about loli, you keep ignoring whatever you feel like to make your argument, I may be reading into things too much by connecting 1488 with christofascism but you are IGNORING things that do have connections. 1488 is linked to christofascism, if you want to argue about that we can.

@Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy
It does prove the point, that you are unwilling to say "That is wrong" and outline exactly, where your ficking line is.

@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy Cutting kid dicks against their will is wrong. Cutting baby dicks is wrong for that reason. If your 10-17yo says "I'd like to be circumcized" well at that point you can talk with them about it and if they understand what they're saying and what will come, then you should support them. What do you think of that?

@Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy
Can you cut the whataboutism to circumsision, when you're talking to a fucking atheist?

I am asking where is the line between an insane trannie and a sane one for you.

@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy An insane tranny is an insane person who happens to be a tranny, so an insane tranny would act like an insane person, a sane tranny would be the inverse.

And besides, you wouldn't understand my definition of insanity, because I don't adhere to your premise. Sanity and insanity are not objective things, your enemies think you are insane, no? So by all means give them more power to lock you up by treating sanity and insanity as anything but opinions. You might as well ask me what is the difference between a big elephant and a small elephant, well, I suppose it would depend on what elephants were around each other at the time. It's all relative.

I've met plenty of trans people, some were shitty, narcissistic, myopic, forgetful, manipulative, just like every other human I've met from every other group. Traditionalists included. I've wanted to kick traditionalists in the teeth, same as trannies, but that doesn't mean I'm right, and it doesn't mean they're right, it's just a fact. I've met trannies who are smart, witty, kind, empathetic, compassionate, open hearted, they spew no hatred, they are not political, they don't even know anything about "kids transitioning" because they garden all day and don't go online. But you don't know about any of that, so all you can do is believe me or doubt me.

@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty they can get it done themselves when they're 18 if they really want to, but I would ask why they want to do that and tell them why I didn't do it to them.

I'm pretty sure the only reason would be "my friends are circumcised" which would lead into a good talk about how you shouldn't feel pressured into doing something just because of your friends, and that I didn't circumcise him in the first place because I didn't want to do anything that would hurt him on purpose just because someone else told me I should.

This is the opposite of tranny grooming, where suicidal fags prey on the insecurities of children rather than trying to ease them.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty The kid could have phimosis, and it could hurt. He tells you to go fuck yourself when you hand wave him. What then?

@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty the kid could have this, what about this, but in this case this would happen what then?

stop trying to justify tranny grooming with completely different matters, maybe. you're moving the goal posts constantly. you seem pretty unhinged; that's why people don't like tranny groomer allies.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty you admit that you are so weak-willed and malleable that you could be groomed into being a tranny I don't know about you but when people tried to groom me into being things that I didn't want to be I stood up against it

@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty you know literally nothing about me then lmao

@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty i was brainwashed into religion from the day i was born. in high school, my cognitive dissonance was so high i couldn't handle it and tried killing myself. i imagine that this case is quite similar to so-called "trans kids."

religions and tranny groomers act on the same principles of preying on human insecurities and fears with promises and a supportive community. both have very cult-like behavior and i detest them.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty I've known people who have tried to kill themselves because they weren't being allowed to transition so what are you even talking about you're like so blind if you think you're arguing for anything other than the acceptance of trans kids

@Jazzy_Butts @LukeAlmighty in a case like that, i'd wager to say the person is already severely depressed and something like this stacks onto that. it demonstrates a failure in parenting and a lack of care when it comes to REALLY emotionally providing for a child. some parents have a line they don't want to be crossed but also do nothing to ensure that their kid never comes close to that line, and when they do it's a lot harder to correct course.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty Ok, I copy paste that argument, and use it myself. Immovable object meet unstoppable force.

@Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy
Btw, in this argumentative atmosphere, kindness cannot get through.

But I am truly sorry you live in an environment so deranged, that you know more then one troon. I get, if you meet one, since statistics on the matter do work this way, but since you know more, then you have to live one hell of a bad life.

@LukeAlmighty @Jazzy_Butts @beardalaxy My week has 5 troon… People act like this is normal. Faggots in dresses working at the grocery. Like its Np. 5 years ago, no troons…

@VIcFury @beardalaxy @Jazzy_Butts
i meet one in my fucking life.

Of course he was a uni teacher at a liberal shithole.

@VIcFury @beardalaxy @Jazzy_Butts
..... And he trooned out only way after the global wave of brainwashing had gotten mainstream. (only about 3 years ago)

@LukeAlmighty @VIcFury @Jazzy_Butts I am lucky that I haven't personally spent much time with whack trannies. Most of the fuckin creepy/weird ones were in the Q category with made up genders and shit. There was one tranny mtf that was just fuckin gross and would like, TRY to get us to say bad stuff about him all the time. Some queer dude also used to hit on me all the time despite knowing I wasn't interested.

I was friends with 2 trans people. One of them was ftm and she always seemed like a dude, not just a tomboy but a straight up dude, and that was long before all the crazy troon wave and politicized gender and shit started happening. Back when everyone still thought feminism was good, you know? Probably the one actual case of someone going trans that has made sense to me, even though I still don't particularly agree with it. She's still cool with us saying her dead name and whatever and fuckin hates the current state of politically correct shit because it makes her look bad. I can respect someone like that even if I disagree with them on their decision.

The other one was a mtf from work that I literally would not have known was trans unless somebody else told me. That's the way it ought to be. For 2 years I thought he was a girl straight up, never had a reason to think otherwise.