Yeah, why not...

@LukeAlmighty Blue is sure, Orange depends on context.

@LodedDiaper
Abolish gender?

@LukeAlmighty The term "gender" was initially created by john money to describe the idea of a "mental" aspect that is separate from physical sex. Or essentially the "born in the wrong body" mindset. If you we're to literally Abolish "gender", that essentially means that your sex and mind are one in the same. I'm am male, my mind doesn't have a "gender" it simply exists in a male body. My mind can't be "male or female" depend on how i feel, as sex is a physical trait. If i begin saying "my mind is female" i need to use the concept of "gender" to rationalize that despite the physical reality that i I'm male.

@LodedDiaper
Nice wall of text you've got there.
Would be a shame if I responded with gender == sex

@LukeAlmighty I basically saying only sex exists. Gender is fake.

@LodedDiaper
Only cars exist, 4 wheeled motorized vehicles with a roof are fake.

@LukeAlmighty This is essentially semantic.

@LodedDiaper
No, it's strategy.

@LukeAlmighty ?

@LodedDiaper
Last 20 fucking steps the left had done were by re-defining language.

Refuse to use their language. Take their words, and use them correctly. Troons hit a wall with woman, because feminist weren't willing to bend the knee on woman.

But we did bend on racism, gender, diversity, inclusion and equality. So, I say it's time to be a grammar nazi.

@LukeAlmighty @LodedDiaper The question is if "gender" is even salvageable at this point. I do think the word has more going for it than "racism" (throw that shit right in the trash, we don't need a smear word for perfectly natural and healthy in-group preference) or "cisgender", and I like having another word for sex that isn't so easily confused with the act of fucking, but that's really its only legitimate role. If sex and gender aren't completely interchangeable, "gender" belongs in the trash along with retarded garbage like "homophobia" and "transmisogyny".

@ChristiJunior @LodedDiaper
Yeah, I know, it's not salvagable, when even poasters got used to defending it.

But at that point, if we cannot get to the point, where we're willing to defend language, we're just fucked.

@ChristiJunior @LodedDiaper
So, I take it as a prime example of a lost battle to point WHAT NOT TO DO next time.

@ChristiJunior @LodedDiaper
We literally used to laugh at the line, and now, I have so called right wingers repeating it.

That is a fucking definition of failure.

@LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior If makes you happy then abolish the concept of a "social construct" is what i mean.

@LodedDiaper @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty that is 100% not what this graph means though

@beardalaxy @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty There was a graph i filled out blue was sure and orange depends on the context. In the context of "abolish gender" i was referring to abolishing the concept of mental "gender". I didn't elaborate on in the initial post and it became a semantics debate. I this point i don't care about the term as much as the concept.

@LodedDiaper @ChristiJunior @beardalaxy
Oh, sorry :D
since my original question was yesterday, I didn't realize the entire debate was triggered by it.