@Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong @NEETzsche
I see it as 10 year though, even if we start now.
While it's going to seem like a blink of an eye, these things have unbelievable ammount of innertia.
The backlash has been mounting for nearly a decade now. Just consider that Donald Trump, who was elected in 2016, was about, among other things, there being a political rebuttal to commiewokester garbage. After him, they increased their heavy-handedness. You should not view their heavy-handedness as a sign of strength, but of weakness, since they lie about how heavy-handed they are. They want to be perceived as legitimate, not as dictators, yet in order to get shit done they still need to be dictatorial. This tension means that every time they do dictatorial things, they deduct from their social capital. They don’t add to it.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
Weird, that you count 2016 as a backlash, because I see it as a starting point for the next level leftism. It was the year, when BLM decided to get violent at DePaul.
That was 7 years ago, and I still haven't seen the right do a SINGLE comperable demonstration of power.
I count 2016 as a backlash because the popular origins of modern wokesterism started on sites like Tumblr in the early 2010s. We can go back further and look at Cultural Marxism as understood by the Frankfurt School, which is the Jewish intellectual root of this wokesterism, but the actual movement hadn’t really materialized until the early 2010s. So 2016 was the first serious backlash to it. It might not appear as such because you’re living on another continent, but this conflict goes BACK.
As for comparable demonstrations of power, I can think of three very noteworthy right wing demonstrations: Charlottesville, the Bundy standoffs, and January 6. Boomercons might be misguided, but they’re the ones who had the first actual White race riot in like a century, and they brought it straight to the Capitol Building over a rigged election.
Given the heavy-handedness of the crackdown, an understanding has been created that if Whites smash a few cameras and shove a few cops around, they will go to Federal pound-me-in-the-ass prison, forever, and so an understanding has been created that if you do lash out, go ham. Maximize death and destruction. I should mention that American Whites have guns. So, the next January 6, if there is ever one, will involve just rounding everybody up and killing them outright until the military comes in, if they can even marshall it correctly now.
They are more desperate than they appear.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
I guess I am having problems accepting these protests, because they are still a normal antifa-tier riots at most.
But, there is not a single case of institutional support on the DePaul level.
Or, maybe I'm just dellusional about this stuff :D
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
2A =/= right wing, white, straight or male.
Politicians posing for a propaganda piece is not something I take seriously.
And the entire protest was at protecting democracy, not about pushing back the left.
I am sorry, but I just don't see it.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
I don't accept the framing of rights supported by both sides being left or right wing, just because they are used more often.
I always roll my eyes, when I hear people say, that left wing is defined by gay rights. And I believe, that right wing has MANY issues more important then 2A. Especially now, that open discrimination is the main topic of the discourse.
Well if you want to talk about discrimination, that’s being unraveled by the same Supreme Court. Check out the affirmative action cases, which abolished race-based admissions in universities both public and private. So I guess that might qualify as institutional support to you more than 2A. That said, I take 2A more seriously than abolishing affirmative action because implementing 2A makes my people less helpless. Being able to kill makes one able to implement any policy.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
Well, I want to see the water level getting down. These "good sign wibes" level events you describe seriously just aren's enough.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
I am sorry, but you are comparing the lefties being able to establish a nation within nation for 3 whole weeks, and comparing that to "guys went on a walk inside of a single building for a few hours".
The left and right wing institutional support is not even on the same plane of existence.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ)
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
If your response to terrorism on that scale from the left is "it's a joke", then I understand, why you don't see the problem with institutional bias.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
It is a demonstration of power.
The goal was not to conquer the area, but to show to everyone, that the law does not apply to them.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
The effect is, that everyone knows, that if they decide to face the left, a bunch of barbarians can appear out of nowhere, and the government won't stop them.
And it also was mesage to the antifa, that they in fact can continue to terrorise anyone they want.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
> How much of that do you suppose they can get away with with an armed population before the final answer is just no?
So far? 10 years and counting.
And I estimate 10-20 more.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
Sure. In 10-20 years, we are going to see a backlash. But to say, that we are seing it already seems to me like a joke TBH.
@NEETzsche @Mr_NutterButter @Senator_Armstrong
Well, it ain't easy, but having a white nation does help a lot.
Although, US has a global bad aura effect. Any problem you guys don't solve in 10 years is a problem we become infected with.