Can we just beat up people, who say "beards are makeup for men"?
@LukeAlmighty beat me up then
@LukeAlmighty i always say the beard is the man's makeup because a good beard will make any man look better. got a bad chin? got no hair on your head? got some funky jawline or cheeks? beard. fixed.
there's a reason why people say they look 20 years younger when they shave.
@beardalaxy Think before you post dumb shit
Beard is a biological feature. Some people can grow it, while others can't. And the little I can actually grow does grow by itself. There is nothinng malicious about it's presence. It is just there.
Makeup on the other hand is purely a manipulative tool. There is nothing natural about it, and it has NO LIMIT on it's use. Every single instance of it is also 100% intentional. There is no male equivalent, except makeup. YES, YOU CAN USE MAKEUP TOO.
Do you want to know, what is a woman's beard? BOOBS. There, I said it. They also grow on their own, hide the face, and make you look more gendered. Boobs are men's beard. Not fucking makeup.
But, many women love their manipulation SO FUCKING MUCH, that they excuse their 2h daily rutine of lies through brush with "but you have beard". FUCK OFF. How dumb do you have to be to take that excuse seriously?
> is purely a manipulative tool
fakery certainly but I dunno if an aspect of personal grooming can be considered *purely* manipulative. it can certainly be used that way but at the same time if most of the people around you are doing it then you will be at a disadvantage if you don't regardless of your wishes
might as well consider styling your hair to be purely manipulative. go out looking like a schizo and see how well people take to you
@roboneko @beardalaxy
Also, I don't see the word "manipulative" as negative as you might. Obviously, every social interaction is manipulative.
I just find it infuriating, when you compare biological fact to a 100% willful action. (sorry, I cannot find the correct word to describe "willful. But they know what they're doing, why they're doing it, and it is their full decision")
my point is that even in the event that you specifically decide NOT to attempt to manipulate the other party, refraining from a common social practice will generally leave you at a disadvantage. so I figure it's perfectly reasonable to imitate others with the intent to fit in so to speak
similarly, are perfume and cologne manipulative? or even just antiperspirant for that matter. humans don't naturally smell that way. I think it comes down to context and intent
> cannot find the correct word
intentional? but I (think I) understood your meaning
@roboneko @beardalaxy
> will generally leave you at a disadvantage
Sure
> are perfume and cologne manipulative
Here, we come back to my original point. Neither of these are a biological feature. Therefore, if you compared either of these to beard, it would be just as retarded.
But yes, they do serve the same manipulative goal as makeup.
but even then it seems like showing off is different from trying to deceive someone regarding your physical characteristics. so there's still some nuance in terms of intent