Can we just beat up people, who say "beards are makeup for men"?

@LukeAlmighty i always say the beard is the man's makeup because a good beard will make any man look better. got a bad chin? got no hair on your head? got some funky jawline or cheeks? beard. fixed.

there's a reason why people say they look 20 years younger when they shave.

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@beardalaxy Think before you post dumb shit

Beard is a biological feature. Some people can grow it, while others can't. And the little I can actually grow does grow by itself. There is nothinng malicious about it's presence. It is just there.

Makeup on the other hand is purely a manipulative tool. There is nothing natural about it, and it has NO LIMIT on it's use. Every single instance of it is also 100% intentional. There is no male equivalent, except makeup. YES, YOU CAN USE MAKEUP TOO.

Do you want to know, what is a woman's beard? BOOBS. There, I said it. They also grow on their own, hide the face, and make you look more gendered. Boobs are men's beard. Not fucking makeup.

But, many women love their manipulation SO FUCKING MUCH, that they excuse their 2h daily rutine of lies through brush with "but you have beard". FUCK OFF. How dumb do you have to be to take that excuse seriously?

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@LukeAlmighty i'm not going to get into a flame war with you over a stupid saying

@beardalaxy
Sure. I love myself some flame war, but if you don't feel like it, enjoy your day :D

I just wanted to say, that the entire saying is a manipulative way of excusing makeup (no mattter the scope) by a biological reality that cannot be changed.

@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy

> is purely a manipulative tool

fakery certainly but I dunno if an aspect of personal grooming can be considered *purely* manipulative. it can certainly be used that way but at the same time if most of the people around you are doing it then you will be at a disadvantage if you don't regardless of your wishes

might as well consider styling your hair to be purely manipulative. go out looking like a schizo and see how well people take to you :cirno_heh:

@roboneko @beardalaxy
Do you seriously think I have never been out looking like a chyzo?
Bruh, I have over 20 years of practice.

@LukeAlmighty @roboneko @beardalaxy
Likewise, I'm a bit surprised to learn that people resort to hair styling to look like a skidzo, I think I'm a natural 😅

@roboneko @beardalaxy
Also, I don't see the word "manipulative" as negative as you might. Obviously, every social interaction is manipulative.

I just find it infuriating, when you compare biological fact to a 100% willful action. (sorry, I cannot find the correct word to describe "willful. But they know what they're doing, why they're doing it, and it is their full decision")

@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy it's not (necessarily) that manipulative is negative (I do nearly always see it that way tho) but rather that it ascribes a particular intent regarding behavior towards the other party

my point is that even in the event that you specifically decide NOT to attempt to manipulate the other party, refraining from a common social practice will generally leave you at a disadvantage. so I figure it's perfectly reasonable to imitate others with the intent to fit in so to speak

similarly, are perfume and cologne manipulative? or even just antiperspirant for that matter. humans don't naturally smell that way. I think it comes down to context and intent

> cannot find the correct word

intentional? but I (think I) understood your meaning

@roboneko @beardalaxy
> will generally leave you at a disadvantage

Sure
> are perfume and cologne manipulative

Here, we come back to my original point. Neither of these are a biological feature. Therefore, if you compared either of these to beard, it would be just as retarded.

But yes, they do serve the same manipulative goal as makeup.

@LukeAlmighty @beardalaxy fair enough. personally I don't tend to view these things negatively until they're well in excess of the average for the relevant context

but even then it seems like showing off is different from trying to deceive someone regarding your physical characteristics. so there's still some nuance in terms of intent
@roboneko
> humans don't naturally smell that way
I'd say more, humans weren't even designed to shower daily 😏
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