eugenicists (& co) using "darwinism" as an excuse completely ignore what evolution *actually is*

actual evolution isn't a moral statement, it's not what "should be", it's a description of what *is*, it's just what happens in nature

eugenicists view evolution from a prescriptive lens, and that's just not how any of it works, just because lifeforms adapt to external stimuli over generations doesn't mean we have the right to choose what traits are "better"

@nep
I am sorry, but I still disagree.
Just, because natural adaptations to environment do happen, doesn't mean we should just give up. In fact, I would argue the oposite. We owe it to our kids to make sure they do not get bad genes.

And modern medicine makes this much worse. Since, we can support much more sick people, this is literally unsustainable process, because every sick person who does manage to reproduce thanks to insane drugs will have even sicker kids who will need even more drugs to survive.

@LukeAlmighty @nep the vast majority of health issues people actually have is all self-induced. Alcoholism and obesity being the two biggest ones.

@luwa @nep
Are you drunk?
This is the dumbest whataboutism I've seen since the bear.

@LukeAlmighty @nep I didn't really read the thread tbf

I'm simply saying that 'good genes' is silly. 99.99% of everyones genes are totally fine, and instead of some weird ethnic cleansing thing happening, what really needs to happen is people need to cut cigarettes, cut most alcohol (all would be best), and watch their diet. Do those and we'd be in better shape then any point in human history. No reproductive evolution, blah blah shit needed

@luwa @nep
I see... You are totally wrecked.

See you once the drugs wear out.

@LukeAlmighty @nep Your brain is cooked bro. You basically can't disagree with what I just said. You CAN say that even if we did that it wouldn't be far enough for you, but to say "You are totally wrecked." is absurd lmao
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@luwa @nep
Yes, you are wrecked.
There is a conversation about eugenics, and your productive help is "but muh alcohol".

Get a life bro.

@LukeAlmighty @nep Because i'm saying that eugenics is largely irrelevant because 99.9% of people are healthy 'genetically' and I listed x,y,and z steps to fix half the issues people have which cause them to experience negative health effects.
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