hot take 

Feminism had killed the concept of human rights. Before abortion, the arguments about the nature of human rights was a pure academic masturbation, but now, that the slide of hand was abused beyond reason down to a right to kill babies, it seems inevitable, that the entire structure might fall down to the level of "I don't care".

Also, thanks SFO for teaching me the importance of me ne frago, since it does seem like a concept, that will get more important in the years to come.

hot take 

@LukeAlmighty women: "we have a right to live"
moids: "THEY'RE KILLING BABIES"
you know, if men really cared about saving lives, including their own, there would be no wars anymore, but men glorify wars instead 💅 so all this "right to kill babies" talk is just projection, as usual

@tomie @LukeAlmighty Men bitch and moan about muh killing babies but never realize that there would't be much of a need for abortions if they didn't rape women or coerce/threaten them into sex.

They will never want to address the root cause because that would involve them not having access to women and their bodies whenever they want.
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@brendamccann @tomie
Ok... I agree with you.
Aborting rape babies should be legal. 100%. I have not a single issue with that, and I will support you on that.

Now, can we finally start talking about the 92.5% of cases, that aren't an obvious strawman?

@LukeAlmighty @brendamccann @tomie I'm confused about something else. Didn't we invent birth control? Why are these hoes spreading their legs if they aren't protected?

@sergeantcat @LukeAlmighty @tomie Because men cry and beg and threaten until they give in. If they don't give in they are a selfish, prudish bitch who won't give a nice guy a chance. If they do they are a slut and the man is absolved from all responsibility even though the sex was more than likely what he wanted, not her.

@brendamccann @tomie @sergeantcat
So, if you fuck a nice guy, it's his fault.
If you fuck a thug, it's nice guys fault.
If a thug rapes you, it's a nice guys fault.
And if you ignore him... it's his fault.

Got it.

@brendamccann @LukeAlmighty @tomie A woman can give in to having sex and also use contraception. They aren't mutually exclusive things. To not use contraception and then kill the baby is absurd and disgusting.

@sergeantcat @LukeAlmighty @tomie There are some men who get off on doing it raw and will not entertain the idea of alternatives. I know, not all men, but not using contraceptives is not *just* something women will do. It takes much less effort to obtain a rubber than it does plan b.

I'm not the biggest fan of abortion myself. But in a world where men are not only unable to keep it in their pants, but also adamantly refuse to and frame women as being the cause of this shortcoming (and every shortcoming they have), I see it as a necessary evil. If I got pregnant I severely doubt I would have an abortion, but I find sex to be massively overrated so probably not gonna happen. I don't want to get married either.

I know this may not be what men want to hear, but in order to resolve the abortion problem, they have to abstain from sex as much as they want women to. Be the change you want to see in the world.

@brendamccann @tomie @sergeantcat So, let me get this straight. I fully support the abortion rights, and yet, you decided to attack me as a rapist, because I didn't support them enough, even though you claim to not be a fan of them yourself?

Well, this conversation makes complete sense out of a sudden. :tanya_sip:

@sergeantcat @LukeAlmighty @brendamccann lol, as if moids also don't do everything in their power to restrict and ban all those other contraception methods

Women can lie about rape. Why give the worst people that as the only option to get an abortion? They don't have to ruin more lives (the child, the one they falsely accuse).

You can believe it's immoral, but making it illegal causes a lot more problems than it's worth.

@djsumdog @tomie @brendamccann
Do you seriously believe, that I oppose abortions? l :blob_dizzy_face:

I hate how insanely low reading comprehension of some people on fedi is... And fedi is the most educated social networkI know of.

> Ok... I agree with you. Aborting rape babies should be legal. 100%.

This would imply you believe in some limits to abortion. There is nothing else in this thread to indicate you're pro-abortion. At least on my instance, it starts with you ranting about feminism.

Don't blame my reading comprehensions when there's literally nothing up there, dickhead!

@djsumdog @tomie @brendamccann
I complained about the destruction of the common concept of human rights by a tool of insane argumentation for abortion. But I am really disappointed that you missed it even on a 2nd reading.

@djsumdog @LukeAlmighty @tomie @brendamccann the 10 year olds getting raped and pregnant by their stepfathers aren't lying, dawg.
Yea they're not, but Crystal Mangum was lying ... and she never faced any consequences for it .. I mean she is in prison now, but that's because she murdered someone (years later, unrelated to the rape accusation).

@LukeAlmighty @brendamccann
whenever I point at the economics and say "look at this shit", I get called a commie and get a barrage of "but muh moslems give birth to dozens of babies, just take away women's rights", but whenever I say that under this pecking order men would have to work and provide, I get called a gold digger
you kinda proved the main point yourself by this graph anyway: the main numbers are created not my imaginary strawman "hoes", but by stable traditional families who quite literally can't afford a baby/or the so-called dad is a manchild, deadbeat, or flat out left

@tomie @brendamccann
She talked about rape, so I posted a graph about rape stats.

I seriously don't think you understand the entire "proving point" thing...

@LukeAlmighty @brendamccann you asked "can we finally start talking about the rest" so I did

I seriously don't think you understand the entire "proving point" thing...

@tomie @brendamccann
Oh, don't I?
Then what is your actual thesis? Because if it's "Under this pecking order men would have to work and provide,", then you should find someone who disagrees first.

@tomie @LukeAlmighty Unrelated but I wore a Tomie T-shirt to my zumba class last night and the instructor asked me what it was 😆 I love Tomie
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