One day, I will take a pen, paper and start calculating just how much of my life was stolen by the state.
And I know, that once I see that number, I will never wake up the next day.
@Jens_Rasmussen
The idea came, because there are talks being made about mandatory military service in here. And when I wanted to explain to someone about losing an year of my life to state mandated bullying, I also remembered the 20 years of school.
After that, taxes obviously came to mind........ As I said, if I ever calculate it, I will in fact go collect it all back with interest from someone.
@Jens_Rasmussen
Bro...
I was already stolen 20 years of life by school, and it tought me nothing about first aid, fitness or handling firearms. But, military service is not a self-help camp. It is a state mandated slavery.
Do you REALLY want to tell me, that it couldn't fit into the already stolen 20 years of school service?
@Jens_Rasmussen
I see. You didn't get a single word I said.
@Jens_Rasmussen
> Our mandatory military service (Which is not really mandatory at all) will be extended to also cover women next year.
Based
@Jens_Rasmussen
BTW, I love the absolute state of euphemisms people use to describe it. You used "some basic first aid, how to handle a firearm and getting some basic fitness". That's not a bad way of describing state mandated slavery.
But in here, and I'm not shit talking..... They described it as an "alternative way of getting a drivers license" 
The issue then comes with disagreements about who "the people" are, and how the people and nation are best served.
@Jens_Rasmussen
Yes, I agree with both statements you just wrote.
A nation and it's people should serve each other. But, I live in the EU. The government had already commited a treason, and it doesn't represent my interest. Serving the government would be betraying the people I love and want to protect.
It's that simple.
I do believe that some military service can be good for most men, assuming there is no abuse and such of course.
Learning some basic first aid, how to handle a firearm and getting some basic fitness at least at one point in life are all good.