People unironically tell me, that there is no anti-family propaganca, while walking by this fucking sign.
> What did your biological family bring you?
> Trust issues, self-reliance and bruises
> What I am never going tto do
> Sadness, mental issues, fear, bad memories
Sure.... No anti-family propaganda detected at all....
@LukeAlmighty Depressing this sorta thing exists in Czechia too.
@monoyose
Not oo much, but yes. While I would say, that on the ground level, we were up until Gen Alpha still a healthy society, on the governmental level, our overlords are on a speedrun to suck the most progressive US dick they can find, while on the ground level, gen alpha kids did fucking lost their ability to know what gendewr they are.
So, we might be 20 years behind the progresive shit thanks to the strong atheist core with a near ritualistic alcohol culture, but not even the strongest of foundations can hold society forever.
@LukeAlmighty Yeah isn't Czechia an anomaly in that it began going irreligious in the 1800's?
I remember reading that, but now it seems that this is mostly a 20th century thing possibly due to the communist regime. Contradicts what I read years ago.
@monoyose
Not sure where it's comming from, but still we are at about 78% atheistic nation, and it is in fact a truly unique thing about this nation, that I LOVE.
People do blame it on communism, but I don't think any other country did end up atheistic after commie regime, so there might be more to it. (Maybe a base in religeaous infighting ever since the Hussite Warriors?)
Damn... They even have a Muslim infection in Russia right now.
@monoyose
I was in a christian primary school. I saw the culture and values christians hold holy. And they were the most woke people I have ever meet in my life. The forgiveness and openess to be abused went hand in hand with reality denial. All things, that were a total requirement for wokeness to spread.
Meanwhile, the atheist core of the country holds to the core values, that hold the society together. They have no reason to just accept someone's pronouns and the "born in a wrong body" bullshit. As long, as your faithless mind can seek truth and accept the world "as it is", then wokeness has no place in it.
@monoyose
And the second half is being attacked too, but I do mean it honestly. The beer culture is fucking required. Why? Because among drunk friends, politick is debated completely differently, You can say you feelings with 1/10th of the filters it goes through normally, and therefore it allows you to see the human behind the ideas that normally go untold and crystalized in your internal chamber of hate.
It's no wonder why are people pushed so fucking hard these days to stop drinking. Because once they stop, it will be not only one more 3rd space completely gone, but it will be the single 3rd space, where people do open up to their core. -_-
@LukeAlmighty I do know Czechia is like the #1 beer country on planet earth. Love beer, but can't drink it anymore due to celiacs unfortunate.y
"Atheism insulates from woke" is so detached from reality I can't believe you're asserting it in earnest
@Witch_Hunter_Siegfried @monoyose @monsterislandcolonizer
> Nieztche and TJ Kirk both inhabit inverse sides of the spectrum
That is one briliand way of describing this spectrum 
@roland @monoyose @monsterislandcolonizer
A culture of systematic and agressive reality denian forced on a societal level on everyone. Based most likely on the line of "all people are created equal", and spiraling out to all people are therefore equal, biologically, mentally and wealth-wise except for white men, who stole all health and wealth from others.
I think, that this should be a good base of a definition as I can form with no external help.
@LukeAlmighty @roland @monsterislandcolonizer I have a question: Is your perception of Christianity/religion being "leftist" a common view in Czechia in society at large, or no? Like does mainstream Czech society associate "woke" stuff with Christianity? Is the right more irreligious?
@monoyose @roland @monsterislandcolonizer
That is actually a great question, that I don't think I can answer fully. While almost every christian I saw was the "bible says to be nice to each other somewhat" kind of christian, I know, that there are also some radical groups, that "give christians bad name" for actually not liking gay marriage etc.
There is even a radical christian political party, but they can barely scrape the minimum 5% of votes required to enter the game. So, who knows? Christianity just isn't a common topic here. We don't even bring it up when drunk.
@monsterislandcolonizer @LukeAlmighty I think it might be true in Czechia at the very least.
" to describe it, it's the most succent way of putting it.
@monsterislandcolonizer @LukeAlmighty @monoyose
You're comparing American atheist culture with atheist cultures of other nations. It's not gonna manifest in the same way.
The prime reason why I opposed woke culture since back when we were still talking about "social justice", "intersectional feminism" or just plain "feminazis" is because becoming an atheist made me recognize wokeness was a cult, a non-theistic religion. So atheism born out of actual rationality, instead of some kind of edgy "I'm gonna be rebellious against Christianity" can protect you from the woke mind virus, because you learn to see the patterns repeating.
And even in America, I've even seen both kinds of atheists. I've seen atheists who were obsessed with Christianity and payed no attention to Islam (because their atheism was not born from opposing religions and cults, but because some Christian sect pissed them off) that became woke, and I've seen atheists that spent time denouncing Islam or other religions too, that now oppose wokeness to various degrees.
@monsterislandcolonizer @LukeAlmighty @monoyose your god is a jew
@LukeAlmighty I actually agree with you somewhat, though it depends. The fact is there are some parallels between Christianity morality and "leftism".
@LukeAlmighty @monoyose
Romania is overwhelmingly Christian today (almost 90%), despite living through one of the worst European communist regimes. So I doubt it's purely an effect of communism for you guys.
@LukeAlmighty What makes you think the atheist culture protects you from woke stuff? Usually people would say the opposite. I'm not disagreeing here it's just an atypical opinion.