@alyx
Would you rather be a slave in heaven or a king in hell?

This is a famous question, that I used to consider ridiculous, but the way modern politicians treat it is outright schizophrenic. While they sing the glory of globalism, our politicians say we cannot leave the EU because "we get more money out of surrounding nations".

That is ridiculous, and when it comes to the internet, this split becomes even more obvious. They NEED to control all of the data on their territory, as if they didn't understand that lack of territory is the entire point.

I just realized this point, when I was thinking of the old Netflix. It had it's library so shattered, that a VPN was a requirement for you to use it in any meaningful way.

Well, from there.... We were already just a single step away from national nets being the only option.

@alyx
Sorry for sperging out.

I just concider the internet to be literally as important as the moon landing, when it comes to pushing the idea, that humanity could move on into the future.

I often joke, that as a child, I was politically a Star-trekkie. But that meant, that humanity could move on from racism and unite nations.

BLM completely disproved the first illusion, and it broke me for a decade. Now, they're about to break the 2nd illusion.

@LukeAlmighty Don't worry, the sperg out was interesting.

To me it's starting to look like we're not getting neither "slave in heaven" nor "king in hell" scenarios, but rather a "slave in hell" one.

For almost a decade I've considered the idea that the Internet should be declared and acknowledged as its own independent state, with a constitution and laws completely separate from any country's laws (though I think an Internet constitution would ultimately end up being inspired by the US Constitution). Of course, I don't really know how it could be put into practice, and I don't know if it could actually work. But still, I feel like the global Internet is such an unique creation, that for it to continue allowing international interactions, this would be the only way to achieve that.

But it seems that this dream will likely end soon enough. We'll gonna end up with a couple of networks instead. The Americas (north and south continents) will likely be one network. EU and a few other European countries will be another. The Islamic world will likely separate too. China is already its own thing. Russia will follow suit too. And there are a few more countries, and Africa, that I don't know for sure what will happen to them, but they'll likely stick with America for a while longer.

This is not gonna turn out how they wish it would. They bringin' a knife to a gun fight.

I will beep beep boop boop into the void and that can't stop it. They can stop the normies, but not those who they truly fear.

@alyx @LukeAlmighty the thing is that it isn't the globalism they would have wanted.

@beardalaxy @LukeAlmighty I'm wondering if the issue is that they're narcissistic sociopaths, and the issue isn't that it's not the globalism that they want, but rather that it's not THEM that brought upon globalism. Maybe they have a savior complex of sorts, and they want to receive credit for creating the One World Government. So they can't allow the average humans themselves to interact with one another like this and come to a global mutual understanding by themselves.

Cause on the face of it, they don't want people to be racist, islamaphobes, etc., they claim they want everyone to be equal and treat everyone else the same, they want cultures to mix, but then they don't allow humans to freely interact online and learn from and about each other. There's literal studies that show that the best way to reduce bigotry is exposure. You'd think the internet would have been the perfect tool for a natural exposure therapy, where people learn about other cultures, without the socio-economical issues that come from mass migration.

But the internet wasn't their creation, and isn't their domain, so instead they force mass migration as the exposure method, and limit the internet so it can't get credit for creating the multicultural global utopia (in case it ever comes around).

At this point, that utopia is definitely not going to come, because instead of opting for the safe, self-controlled exposure of the internet, they went with unsafe, uncontrolled, mass migration instead.

It's like the difference between trying to cure arachnophobia with exposure to plushies that look like spiders and trying to cure arachnophobia by forcing the person in the same room with hundreds of the most dangerous spiders in the world. One is helpful with reducing trauma, the other will drastically increase it.
The internet had the ability to reduce bigotry, mass migration has the ability to vastly increase it.

@alyx @beardalaxy
I think that your comparasion is insanely accurate, because there is also a 3rd group that you didn't mention. That is kids, who actually grew up next to the spiders, and know how to handle them. They aren't even aftaid, since they just know what spiders truly are.

Therefore, the young generation can no longer be shaken by the raw internet as it is.