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LOL. Of course. Imagine having like 500 million euros in subsidies for isp's to improve Internet connections and not spend a single cent because you fucked up the entire thing.

@freemo
What kind of momentum would you even want? No phrase will stop gangsters running towards you.

But the contrast will arise once people see what excluding groups leads to. When you see two ideas, of which one leads to race was, it's not that hard to choose.

@freemo
I would still consider it morally and strategically retarded to give up the momentum because of a few bigots, AND, it will receive exactly the same arguments against it as all lives matter.

But yeah, at least it won't be as easy to turn this phrase to another discrimination tool.

But still be careful with this crusade of yours. Bigots LOVE to deform definitions. Diversity didn't always mean everyone except white males you know...

@freemo ok, if you need it spelled out:

'Lives matter' implies 'some' not 'all', so, the statement is not COMPLETE.

And for the second joke you inserted in your argument, you reversed some and all again. Enough of BLM activists are aggressive towards white people for me to see them as a representative of that group.

There are peaceful people in every group you can think of, so I don't really care to argue about percentages while anti-white riots are going on...

@freemo We do not agree, and do not even try such gaslighting again.

First: All lives matter is the proper response to someone ignoring problems of most of population.

Second: If there are people who are willing to ignore problems of significant parts of population, it's important to resist their attempts at ruining more lives.

Third: BLM is a terrorist organisation, that causes nothing but escalation of racial tension.

And finally: Saying that because bunch of terrorists don't like a phrase because that phrase includes people other then them is a proper reason to give up a phrase that has a cultural significance and is both truthful and complete is in my opinion the definition of moral weakness.

It would be both immoral and strategycally retarded to do so.

@freemo
Say what you believe, especially if you see someone else suppressing that truth.

Yes, by most accepted definitions of morality ALL lives matter. If you're only focusing on problems of one group, you will only create more tension. Inevitably and always.

@freemo I hope you mean well, but if you are afraid to say with conviction something as vague as all lives matter just because bunch of idiots don't think so, there is your problem.

If you have ANY conviction you are sure about, you have to say it. Ignoring non-black lives while looking at racial tensions is exactly how things got this bad.

@matrix Translation: "You guys burned down all the stores that could sell our product, so we are just going to wait until you guys stop doing that"

@matrix nah, this time, it's just because the don't want to get looted.

Immagine them setting a podium and a stand to sell games right now... Not a good idea.

@matrix the 'not the hill to die on' argument is amazing. It is comparing any action you take to a war, but how exactly do you plan to gain territory by retreating and saying, 'not the right hill yet' every single time?

@mewmew @velartrill @MilquetoastQT @shadowferret

It matters less up to a point. But there is a point. Remember that the cost of something is (generally) a reflection of the amount of human effort that went into building it.

A Boeing 737 Max costs a little over $100 million. That's equal to the lifetime output of dozens of skilled workers. You let someone destroy that and you've effectively sentenced dozens of people to a life sentence to replace what was destroyed. So do we tolerate that? Or do we shoot the guy trying to destroy it even if we were somehow in a scenario where we expected his actions wouldn't result in any direct loss of life?

Obviously we don't tolerate that. And admittedly it's a contrived scenario. But how about a block of shops that are about to be looted and destroyed. How many millions in damage will that cause? That's not even getting into the question of value of the psychological damage to the community, potential economic damage from now being perceived as an unsafe place, etc.
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