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@realcaseyrollins @leyonhjelm @Mac_CZ
Well, I might be dumb, but I still don't see your point. Would you mind going into more detail?

@realcaseyrollins @leyonhjelm @Mac_CZ
Are you talking definitions here or are you trying to make a point?

Yes, in primitive willage a guy with spear is rich. In here, a guy without air conditioning is poor.

That is quite a difference don't you think? The moment you can produce more value then you need, you do start an infinite loop. Because if you can meet your needs by working 9 hours instead of 10, you are more likely to find more ways to make it into an 8.

If you cut your expenses to a reasonable level, then in here you can live on a part time job already. And that is with average pay. That is quite an acomplishment. That is possible only if you live among people who know how to generate value. And it can go away as soon as people stop producing more then they need.

Now back to the point I think you are trying to make. Have you ever watched survivor shows? I don't like them, but you can clearly see there 3 stages of work. First stage are women :smug: . You will never see them work, and if you leave them alone, they WILL die. Second stage is what you would call poor. These people are willing and able to work. They will make a spear, and fish. They do understand the need for production. But there are also people from the 3rd group. Dreamers that might seem relatively lazy, not spending all of their time hunting and tinkering instead. but these people will eventually make a net. After that, they will find a way to make better tools etc.

These people, I do worship. Because each of their works make the life of everyone easier. They do turn work from a zero sum game into a game of exponencial gain.

@realcaseyrollins @leyonhjelm @Mac_CZ
No, it's not.

You have a bun
You have a sausage
You have a roll

If you ever heated up the sausage and put these things together, and you know how much do people pay for a hot dog, most kids can come to the realization, that the math does not add up.

@coolboymew @SADIDAS
>While I know my 100 dollars here will do nothing to 100 dollars in africa

Fuck... I do not even believe that when I whink about it. When I help someone become self-sustaining or even productive in here, they do make much more good throughout their life then any saved african life ever could.

@Mac_CZ

Anyone who thinks economics is a zero-sum game needs to read Sowell's Basic Economics. The whole purpose of economics is to make sure that goods flow to where they're needed most. The reason most meddling in markets causes more problems than it solves is that it involves introducing either a leech on the allocation (i.e. the speculators trying to profit off Tulip Mania in the 17th century) which makes the product unable to flow economically to its intended audience, or it ensures misallocation of resource by either making a product artificially unaffordable, or artificially too affordable to where it's acquired by the people who don't need it to the exclusion of those who do.

Economics is a natural rationing system. The reason it's beneficial that duct tape rises in price tenfold in a disaster area is not to make it more profitable (though it does have that effect), but to make sure you only buy one roll when you need it instead of six and make it impossible for others to get it. Put a limit of one per person and you just get five members of the same family buying one each, but if you raise the price, they won't buy more than they have to.

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@leyonhjelm @realcaseyrollins @Mac_CZ
If you think that the economy is a zero sum game, I take it as a proof that you never produced ANYTHING of value in your life.

@TylerAbeoJordan@liberdon.com
"This sounds like nothing more then a conspiracy theory"

Can you get a source that isn't a faggot unable to use english language properly?

@lain @Nukie @xue
It's simple. Being a trannie is a personal choince. I have nothing against it.

Abusing childers, taking away personal liberties and dictating compliance are threats that must be met at any cost. If alying with national socialists is a way to stop the left, so be it.

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