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@feld @victor @bot
>and if we escape, and the universe is tearing itself, then we still have enough of time to figgure that one out.

@victor @feld @ArdainianRight @bot
We're back to square one, because you still have not put a single line of reasoning behind your claim.

Claim being: The fact that I will die means, that nothing matters.

@victor Yes, it was a ticket to nihilistic dread. Do you think I'll deny that?

But that was when I was 6 years old.
Since then, I learned to appreciate the life. And you should learn that too.

@victor @feld @ArdainianRight @bot
No, the fact that the sun will expand is meaningless, and you are in denial of the fact, that you and only YOU can find meaning in the short life you were given.

@victor @feld @ArdainianRight @bot
Because all the things I have... I have.
And the mere fact, that you can name a time when I won't have them doesn't change anything about it.

Why is that so hard to understand?

@victor @feld @ArdainianRight @bot
No.
I am saying that I have X.
You are saying, that X is meaningless, because it's not infinite.

That is not logical, and this exact way of thinking is why I consider christianity to be dangerous to the mind.

@victor @feld @ArdainianRight @bot
Damn, you're a nihilist.
I'm sure, that every morning, you eat bread with water because after you finish eating, the taste will be soon gone anyway.

@victor @feld @bot
> If you're going to cease existing when you die, what difference does anything in this life make?

It makes literally all the difference you will ever see, and also a ton of difference for others.

@bot @feld
I told you why.
Assuming people lie as a default explanation leads to useless conversations.

JP says I am not an Atheist. Well, if he says I'm lying, who am I to say otherwise right?

@bot @feld
Sorry, but I cannot take this point seriously in the same way, as JP says, that Atheists don't exist.

@bot @feld
Of course I do understand the corelation that you've mentioned. I just don't believe, that there actually is a causation between atheism and complete degeneracy.

Of course, saying, that the most degenerate person I've seen was a christian won't be a persuasive argument to you, but I've seen many christiand, and I really don't see them being more moral then the atheists.

@bot @feld
Noone in here supports globohomo :omegalul:

But to the point, I did not say “just let people enjoy things”. That is not how I see the world. I say, that our lives are our highest responsibility. That is kinda the true oposite, since watching people destroy their lives is watching them destroy their entire existence, and hurt society as a whole.

@bot @feld
Please, be kind when responding. I will attempt to phrase my thoughts as well as I can, but I understand, that this is a sensitive topic.

Before we start, I am obviously an atheist. I believe, that the life I am living now is the only life I will ever experience. I also believe, that both suffering and prosperity of others is our collective responsibility as a civilization. No God will bring us Haven, but we can live a good life that we have.

So, the heaven/hell idea makes it, so people will not take this life seriously. Instead of working as hard as possible to improve this life, they have a much more important task of keeping the invisible morality points high enough to enjoy the real life, that will begin after their death.

Does this make sense?

@feld
This is actually in my top 3 reasons why I consider christianity to be a dangerous idea.

@applejack @swashberry@social.linux.pizza
BTW, I did get the same advice from my boss :D

40 fucking minutes of standing in place and learning why cooking is so important.

Fucking ridiculous,

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