Fragment from Romania's constitution. 

Art. 30 - Freedom of expression
(1) The freedom to express thoughts, opinions or beliefs and the freedom of creation of any kind, orally, in writing, through images, through sounds or through other means of communication in public, are inviolable.

(2) Censorship of any kind is prohibited.

(3) Freedom of the press also implies the freedom to set up publications.

(4) No publication may be suppressed.

(5) The law may impose on the mass media the obligation to make public the source of financing.

(6) Freedom of expression may not prejudice the dignity, honor, private life of the person or the right to one's own image.

(7) Defamation of the country and the nation, incitement to war of aggression, national, racial, class or religious hatred, incitement to discrimination, territorial separatism or public violence, as well as obscene manifestations, contrary to good morals, are prohibited by law. .

(8) The civil responsibility for the information or for the creation brought to public knowledge rests with the publisher or director, the author, the organizer of the artistic event, the owner of the means of multiplication, of the radio or television station, in accordance with the law. Press offenses are established by law.

Source: constitutia.ro
You can easily use google translate if you're curious, it's very accurate.

re: Fragment from Romania's constitution. 

@alyx Romania is very pro-freedom of speech.

Unless... you talk something the government dislikes

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2013/10/16/Italian-Parliament-introduces-holocaust-denial-legislation/32801381924558/

re: Fragment from Romania's constitution. 

@waltercool
It's a mix of good and bad. Recently a bill was also approved that punishes people for basically hate speech against gypsies. But at the same time, communist parties are illegal.

@alyx @waltercool "Recently a bill was also approved that punishes people for basically hate speech against gypsies"

Good luck locking up 95% of the country.

@ChristiJunior @waltercool
I think gypsies are over 10% of the country, so you'd lock up only about 85% probably.

@ChristiJunior @waltercool
Looking up the numbers now... apparently gypsies are 3%... I wonder why I had that 10% number in my head then...

@alyx @waltercool That's the number who openly identify as Gypsies - Romanians with at least some Gypsy blood are way more numerous, but they're also properly assimilated, they go to school, they work for a living etc, they're just a little more brown and have more siblings than the average Romanian.
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@ChristiJunior @waltercool
I wouldn't guarantee the siblings part, but from my experience growing up, there were definitely a lot of kids during school/uni that you could say were more brown, but from their behavior, how they talked, dressed etc. you wouldn't be able to think they were anything other than Romanian.

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@ChristiJunior @waltercool
So far, in my entire life, I've personally got to know closely only a single person that talked openly about being gypsy. Never came up with anyone else as far as I can remember.

@alyx @waltercool I also remember this one soccer player Bănel Nicoliță, who was very brown-skinned and had like 5 brothers - he was obviously of Gypsy origin, but since he didn't act like a stereotypical Gypsy, the media made no note of it, at least back when I was following Romanian sports.

Romanians is general seem pretty laidback for all their superficial "bigotry" - they generally don't support gay marriage for example, but they also don't fanatically oppose it, and weren't interested in validating PSD's demagogic use of the gay marriage ban referendum.
@ChristiJunior @alyx @waltercool Most of what people call "racism" isn't Nazi racial purist sperging, it's ball-busting between dudes in ethnically mixed areas, where they'll still respect you as long as you act decently.

@ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx @waltercool no. People are racist in the nazi sense. Blacks are retards and everyone knows it.

@Someguy @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx We live on a world where being proud to be black is great, and being proud to be white is BAD. There is even a black proud day.

If that’s not racism. I definitely don’t know what is it.

@waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx yeah yeah you are so not racist. Give me a break. Africa has retard iq. But its just "skin deep" right?

@Someguy @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx Man, hate to be the "leftist" here when I'm not, but strongly disagree.

Human brains evolved depending how geographical and society behaviors are, for survival. IQ is just a test made analyze how a person would perform on a "modern society". Most of high IQ (150+) people are autism ppl who outperforms at maths or science.

Pick any "high IQ" person and put them on Africa a month, and lets bet how many days it would survive.

So my thing on your statement, you can't just compare them. Civilizations under Christendom, Islam, Taoism, etc had lot better human development than Africans, which rulers usually raided/enslaved their own ppl to be sold.

As Atheist, I do acknowledge how important were religions to progress from the "old barbaric" to "civilized" mankind.

@waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx you are a leftist. You just admitted to it. Wear your clown wig with pride.

@Someguy @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior
Oh shut the fuck up. Your reading comprehension is lower than that of an African with "retard IQ".
If you have nothing better to contribute to a discussion than "muh leftist" then you're no better than an leftist that complains about "muh nazi". You can take your imaginary "muh leftist" boogeyman and fuck yourselves.

@alyx @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior Notice how you need paragraphs to argue and I need a few words. There's a reason for this

@alyx @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior if I'm not when why did you even bother replying? It seemed to strike a nerve my ineffective non argument

@alyx @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior I claimed correctly that people know niggers are inferior. It isn't just "dems are the real racist".

I also claimed correctly that by arguing IQ doesn't exist makes mr ancap a leftist which it does. Or im sorry if you don't like that term how about anti white

@Someguy @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior
Just fyi, your reading comprehension is what stoke a nerve, and it seems to be even worse than I initially though. Are you still in school or something?

@alyx @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior I will bet you any amount of money if read more books than you have. I can also speak 4 languages. But who cares you are making this point because you have no argument.

@Someguy @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior
You're accusing someone of being a leftist when it was pretty clear that, if anything, they were playing devil's advocate. When someone puts a word in quotes when talking about themselves, it's pretty damn clear they don't see themselves at that. And if they don't identify themselves as leftist, trust me, that's not the boogeyman socialist leftist you're looking for.

You falsely claimed they argued IQ doesn't exist, when that's not what they said at all. They made a correct observation that current IQ tests are created with certain parameters in mind, mainly that the person taking them has lived in a civilized Western society. Current tests are basically useless in identifying someone's potential intelligence in they've lived under a rock. They'd score 0 IQ, but it doesn't mean that with a Western education they couldn't score as much as your average american Joe.

Also, fun fact, IQ isn't really a measurement of intelligence per say. But it is indeed a very good predictor of intelligence and success.

You also need to prove that denying IQ exists necessarily means the person is a leftist. You have jumped to that conclusion without establishing the correlation, let alone causality, between the two.

@alyx @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior I know IQ is flawed. Any measure that put Chinese over whites has to be. But the point is by literally any metric blacks are retards and that dude was trying to deny it like a leftist. IQ doesn't even begin to describe it all.

Some people need system approved data to understand the obvious. These people are usually conservatives.

@Someguy @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior
>Any measure that put Chinese over whites has to be
Holly fuck... you really are some white supremacist idiot aren't you? :omegalul:
Yeah... I think we're done here. Have a good night, or whatever time of day it is for you.

@ChristiJunior @waltercool
Thing is, PSD didn't really give a crap about the referendum either. What happened was, that a religious non-profit, gathered signatures from the population to change the constitution to oppose gay marriage. And if someone gathers enough of them, they can force the government to hold an official referendum (it's in the constitution I believe). PSD happened to be in power at that time, but they didn't promote the referendum that much. I suspect they might have actually opposed the initiative, but at the same time didn't have the guts to do it openly, as to maintain their image.

As for Nicoliță, he was loved by the entire country. He was a good football player, and always gave it his all. It was of course widely known he was gypsy, but no one cared one bit as far as I can tell. Not sure if he's still playing. I don't follow sports much.

@alyx @ChristiJunior Well, being Romani isn’t a bad thing, but the numbers about how “dangerous” are Romani ppl is there.

I always thought Romani ppl were bad at my country, but few years ago I got known the same perception happens at many countries. So, there might be something wrong at their culture lifestyle.

Wrong in the way like the East think the West is too egoist and individualists, and the West thinks the East is too authoritarian and against minorities. Cultural difference.

@waltercool @ChristiJunior
The thing with Romani is that they are culturally a migratory people. Meaning their traditional cultural values are not about integrating with the lands they pass through. They basically isolate themselves within their communities. Which leads to the type of integration problems the West is seeing now with Muslims that came in recently.

While I wouldn't call this culture of theirs wrong per say, it is indeed incompatible with the culture of the lands Romani currently live in.

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