@Ushio
It has it good parts too. You can't burn our nation's flag.
It was kinda necessary for the "incitement of separatism" part, because of our history. We really don't want external forces to find ways to split our country apart... again...

@alyx @Ushio I still think flag burning should be legal, because it's very much a form of political expression, and it can also allow treasonous forces to Out themselves. Banning "incitement of separatism" kinda rings hollow when the Hungarian special interest party keeps getting into governments despite only polling like 6%. The situation for ethnic Romanians in Harghita and Covasna hardly seems the best, though fortunately the geographic location of those counties makes secession all-but-impossible.

@ChristiJunior
It is freer. And a lot of comment sections, even on normie Facebook, are a treasure trove of what americans consider "toxic" or "hateful" comments, and no one really cleans it up.

@waltercool
It's a mix of good and bad. Recently a bill was also approved that punishes people for basically hate speech against gypsies. But at the same time, communist parties are illegal.

@alyx @waltercool "Recently a bill was also approved that punishes people for basically hate speech against gypsies"

Good luck locking up 95% of the country.

@ChristiJunior @waltercool
I think gypsies are over 10% of the country, so you'd lock up only about 85% probably.

@alyx @waltercool The number of unassimilated Gypsies (the people actually doing the stealing, the begging etc) is probably way lower tho.

@ChristiJunior @waltercool
Looking up the numbers now... apparently gypsies are 3%... I wonder why I had that 10% number in my head then...

@alyx @waltercool That's the number who openly identify as Gypsies - Romanians with at least some Gypsy blood are way more numerous, but they're also properly assimilated, they go to school, they work for a living etc, they're just a little more brown and have more siblings than the average Romanian.

@ChristiJunior @waltercool
I wouldn't guarantee the siblings part, but from my experience growing up, there were definitely a lot of kids during school/uni that you could say were more brown, but from their behavior, how they talked, dressed etc. you wouldn't be able to think they were anything other than Romanian.

@ChristiJunior @waltercool
So far, in my entire life, I've personally got to know closely only a single person that talked openly about being gypsy. Never came up with anyone else as far as I can remember.

@alyx @waltercool I also remember this one soccer player Bănel Nicoliță, who was very brown-skinned and had like 5 brothers - he was obviously of Gypsy origin, but since he didn't act like a stereotypical Gypsy, the media made no note of it, at least back when I was following Romanian sports.

Romanians is general seem pretty laidback for all their superficial "bigotry" - they generally don't support gay marriage for example, but they also don't fanatically oppose it, and weren't interested in validating PSD's demagogic use of the gay marriage ban referendum.

@ChristiJunior @alyx @waltercool Most of what people call "racism" isn't Nazi racial purist sperging, it's ball-busting between dudes in ethnically mixed areas, where they'll still respect you as long as you act decently.

@ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx @waltercool no. People are racist in the nazi sense. Blacks are retards and everyone knows it.

@Someguy @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx We live on a world where being proud to be black is great, and being proud to be white is BAD. There is even a black proud day.

If that’s not racism. I definitely don’t know what is it.

@waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx yeah yeah you are so not racist. Give me a break. Africa has retard iq. But its just "skin deep" right?

@Someguy @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx Man, hate to be the "leftist" here when I'm not, but strongly disagree.

Human brains evolved depending how geographical and society behaviors are, for survival. IQ is just a test made analyze how a person would perform on a "modern society". Most of high IQ (150+) people are autism ppl who outperforms at maths or science.

Pick any "high IQ" person and put them on Africa a month, and lets bet how many days it would survive.

So my thing on your statement, you can't just compare them. Civilizations under Christendom, Islam, Taoism, etc had lot better human development than Africans, which rulers usually raided/enslaved their own ppl to be sold.

As Atheist, I do acknowledge how important were religions to progress from the "old barbaric" to "civilized" mankind.

@waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx you are a leftist. You just admitted to it. Wear your clown wig with pride.

@Someguy @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior @alyx Here is my rainbow.

@Someguy @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior
Oh shut the fuck up. Your reading comprehension is lower than that of an African with "retard IQ".
If you have nothing better to contribute to a discussion than "muh leftist" then you're no better than an leftist that complains about "muh nazi". You can take your imaginary "muh leftist" boogeyman and fuck yourselves.

@alyx @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior Notice how you need paragraphs to argue and I need a few words. There's a reason for this

@Someguy @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior
Because you're not actually making arguments.

@alyx @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior if I'm not when why did you even bother replying? It seemed to strike a nerve my ineffective non argument

@alyx @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior I claimed correctly that people know niggers are inferior. It isn't just "dems are the real racist".

I also claimed correctly that by arguing IQ doesn't exist makes mr ancap a leftist which it does. Or im sorry if you don't like that term how about anti white

@Someguy @waltercool @ArdanianRight @ChristiJunior
Just fyi, your reading comprehension is what stoke a nerve, and it seems to be even worse than I initially though. Are you still in school or something?

@ChristiJunior @waltercool
Thing is, PSD didn't really give a crap about the referendum either. What happened was, that a religious non-profit, gathered signatures from the population to change the constitution to oppose gay marriage. And if someone gathers enough of them, they can force the government to hold an official referendum (it's in the constitution I believe). PSD happened to be in power at that time, but they didn't promote the referendum that much. I suspect they might have actually opposed the initiative, but at the same time didn't have the guts to do it openly, as to maintain their image.

As for Nicoliță, he was loved by the entire country. He was a good football player, and always gave it his all. It was of course widely known he was gypsy, but no one cared one bit as far as I can tell. Not sure if he's still playing. I don't follow sports much.

@alyx @ChristiJunior Well, being Romani isn’t a bad thing, but the numbers about how “dangerous” are Romani ppl is there.

I always thought Romani ppl were bad at my country, but few years ago I got known the same perception happens at many countries. So, there might be something wrong at their culture lifestyle.

Wrong in the way like the East think the West is too egoist and individualists, and the West thinks the East is too authoritarian and against minorities. Cultural difference.

@waltercool @ChristiJunior
The thing with Romani is that they are culturally a migratory people. Meaning their traditional cultural values are not about integrating with the lands they pass through. They basically isolate themselves within their communities. Which leads to the type of integration problems the West is seeing now with Muslims that came in recently.

While I wouldn't call this culture of theirs wrong per say, it is indeed incompatible with the culture of the lands Romani currently live in.

@ChristiJunior @alyx Romani and Romanian are not the same.

Still, they are a problem at every place of the world. Even for myself who belongs to the other side of the world.

At my country they are well known to be very rude, bad hygienic habits, thefts and gambling stolen goods.

I usually talk with everyone (even hard communists / religious / weird ppl) friendly, but last time I talked at street with a Romani woman and her mother, ended asking me money, I rejected, so it spitted me, started to yell me loud and “cursing” me. So never again.

Also my dad got stolen by a Romani many years ago.

@waltercool @alyx That's one reason I always use the Gypsy term on English-language sites, to avoid contributing to that Romani/Romanian confusion. The vast majority of Gypsies aren't Romanian, and the vast majority of Romanians aren't Gypsies.

@ChristiJunior @alyx @waltercool Based.
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@waltercool @alyx Holocaust denial is banned in a lot of Eastern European countries, but that's a bit like those countries banning spanking - it's mostly a symbolic ban to appease Western Europeans, and doesn't remotely reflect how the people actually think and act.

@ChristiJunior @waltercool
We had a case of a minister of external affairs that got into trouble for saying that the Holocaust in Romania wasn't that bad. So I guess that, at the very least if you're a public figure, you'd get into trouble for anything close to Holocaust denial.

@alyx @waltercool Yeah, because at that point it makes international news, and then they have to make use of laws that generally are merely symbolic.

@ChristiJunior @waltercool @alyx Let's get real, nearly no one on the planet gives a single shit about the Kikes. Even most anti-Semites would be OK with them if only the Kikes stopped committing acts of terrorism against them. They are the biggest creators of anti-Semites, making those laws necessary in the first place.