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@Greannach @Eris
The act of conception, the creation of a distinct DNA inherently denies the numerous other possible DNA combinations that could have occurred from the parents' DNA.
This thread illustrates my original point wonderfully.
To justify murder this man is now seriously asking the question "what even is a human anyway?"
@Eris @Greannach
>"what even is a person anyway"
There. Fixed it for you.
@Greannach @Eris
What purpose would it fulfill to state the distinction, if Einstein over here things his foot is a person?
@alyx “the distinction”
This is very misleading. It implies you have command over the language such that you can unilaterally decide what “the distinction” between humans and persons is. It’s a Jewish redefinition, language-loading game.
@NEETzsche @Eris @Greannach
Command? No. A better understanding of the language, maybe.
@Eris @NEETzsche @Greannach
So "the earth is flat" is on equal value to "the earth is a sphere"?
A round earther cannot just go "You are a flat earther therefore i win." That's not how arguments work.
@alyx >So “the earth is flat” is on equal value to “the earth is a sphere”?
If we’re in a flat vs round earth debate, yes. You don’t think certain positions effectively get an autowin when they end up debated, do you?
Broke: The Earth is a sphere.
Woke: The Earth is flat.
Bespoke: The Earth is a torus.
@alyx “a better understanding of the language, maybe”
I highly doubt it, since we’re all writing to each other in the same language and I can efficiently categorize your word games.
The quality of your argument is defined by how well it conforms to how he thinks.
@Eris Anyway, the only coherent argument I can think of that abortion isn’t a type of murder is that, depending on your jurisdiction, abortion might be legal. Murder is generally considered to be illegal homicide, not merely premeditated homicide.
That’s a legalistic argument, though, and it’s me playing devil’s advocate. We should totally banhammer abortion as a form of murder at the Federal level, femoids get rekt
>Murder is generally considered to be illegal homicide, not merely premeditated homicide.
This is why most dictionary definitions of murder are shit and wrong.
>and it’s me playing devil’s advocate.
The beginning of wisdom for me was learning never to do that.
@Greannach @Eris @alyx I define murder as “homicide that pisses God off.” Abortion qualifies.
Different, not better.