@Greannach @Eris
The act of conception, the creation of a distinct DNA inherently denies the numerous other possible DNA combinations that could have occurred from the parents' DNA.

@alyx @Eris we're not talking about abstract movement of genes or bio chemicals in an environment. We're talking about murder which is a human phenomenon on a human scale.
@Greannach @alyx

This thread illustrates my original point wonderfully.
To justify murder this man is now seriously asking the question "what even is a human anyway?"
@alyx @Eris The separation you are making between human and person is not appropriate in this context. You have not established any distinction.

@Greannach @Eris
What purpose would it fulfill to state the distinction, if Einstein over here things his foot is a person?

@alyx “the distinction”

This is very misleading. It implies you have command over the language such that you can unilaterally decide what “the distinction” between humans and persons is. It’s a Jewish redefinition, language-loading game.

@Greannach @Eris

@alyx @NEETzsche @Greannach Part of arguing is placing your position on equal value to the one you are opposing. You seem unable to do that.
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@Eris @NEETzsche @Greannach
So "the earth is flat" is on equal value to "the earth is a sphere"?

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@alyx @NEETzsche @Greannach Yes. Both of those are opinions. Someone on either side who wants to argue with the other needs to understand that.
A round earther cannot just go "You are a flat earther therefore i win." That's not how arguments work.

@alyx >So “the earth is flat” is on equal value to “the earth is a sphere”?

If we’re in a flat vs round earth debate, yes. You don’t think certain positions effectively get an autowin when they end up debated, do you?

@Eris @Greannach

@NEETzsche @alyx @Eris Anyway Ill cut out of this debate now, but Ill add lastly, hopefully you Alyx will reconsider your support of baby murder, even if it is just to consider being less tolerant to its most liberal excesses.
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