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Which is the worst, most corrupt, most despicable, most [insert bad thing here] piece of proprietary software you can think of? Let's exclude operating systems, cause it would be too easy for everyone to just say Windows.

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@alyx

man it's a hard choice between NSA shit and military shit

@histoire
I have to say, I wasn't expecting government funded stuff as a response. Quite interesting...

@alyx

It's hard for me to think of something more evil than murder or spying, which is what the tools are used for.

Facebook, Google, et al. fall into that as well, cause I'm pretty sure they take plenty govt funds.

The tools themselves aren't evil IMO, but I don't think think the distinction matters much here.
@histoire @alyx military software barely works, too. This makes vendor support mandatory.
@alyx I was going to say Windows after I read the first line lol

Hmm I guess it could be the Microsoft office suite, but maybe thats cheating since it is Windows kinda.

Personally I despise whatsapp because I am forced to use it at work and in normal life in order to get things done.

Discord could also be it, they refuse to allow people to hide blocked messages, and they give excuses like "the way discord is built doesnt allow for that" which is complete bullshit, so for some reason they have a secret agenda to force people to be annoyed constantly by those they have blocked, and then you realize the word "discord" means disharmony, conflict. Something to think about.

@asa_2
MS Office is an acceptable answer. They're monopoly on document formats have definitely hurt everyone a lot.

Whatsapp was probably decent at some point in the past... but then Facebook came along.

I never used Discord, but I've heard plenty of bad and weird things about it to believe you.

@GNUxeava @alyx thats a good one, isnt adobe reader like one of the programs that has been exploited to run viruses in your PC the most?

Which reminds me of Chrome, thats a very harmful one as well.

@asa_2 @GNUxeava
Don't know if it's been exploited the most, but it's probably up there. Besides, Adobe Reader is the most bloated pdf reader I know.

I've thought about Chrome too, but it's a weird one, cause technically it's a mix of proprietary and open-source software. But the proprietary pieces within it are definitely pretty bad.

@alyx@gameliberty.club they trick you into paying them a handsome amount of money, they trick you into installing 3rd party software. When you find it and try to cancel subscription, they charge you even more for it

@GNUxeava
Not to mention that after some years they'll close their registration services for the older versions, so you can no longer use them, and have to buy them all over again.

@alyx anything that run exclusively on the (((cloud)))

@deesenaughts
I'd add to that anything that must have constant internet access for "security"/authentication reasons.

@sandycorzeta
Interesting... I've never heard of these. I see they're audio editing tools.

@alyx@gameliberty.club ProTools subscription is quite corrupt and expensive as hell. Not to mention that some of features that can be expanded need to buy an additional hardware called HDX.
For a cubase... Every year has a new major version and thus making you to pay again for each upgrade for almost about 100$/version

@alyx Easy Anti-Cheat. They intentionally make games not work on Linux. Fuck Tim Sweeney and Epic Games.

@straw
You're out of the loop. Apparently Easy Anti-Cheat is getting a Linux version.

@alyx I think it already has one, but they made all games that previously supported Linux just not support it anymore (Rocket League for example, after Epic Games acquired it), and it can't run on Proton/Wine either. I've seen the progress on getting EAC to run on them but it's nowhere near complete

@alyx WAIT WHAT?
> Valve promised it would work with anti-cheat software makers EAC and BattlEye to ensure some of the most popular games will run on its upcoming Steam Deck Linux-based gaming handheld, and one of those companies is now officially on board — Epic Games announced today that its Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) now supports Linux and Mac. Not only that, it’s specifically set up to work with the Proton and Wine compatibility layers that Valve’s relying on to bring Windows games to the Deck.

@straw
Yup. It's pretty new. It'll take a while until we actually see the results.

@alyx gonna install that game I really love but couldn't play because of EAC (Rising Storm 2), thanks for this conversation!

@alyx (((Steam))), it takes too long to start up for a simple webbrowser so it must be mining shitcoins or sending my data to the feds, has pretty much a monopoly on PC games, requires you to install and have running their spyware client to install and(in most cases) even play shit you buy from them, and is run by faggots in general.

@alyx Easy for me. Facebook app for Android.

Insidious piece of shit.
@alyx Amino, hands down. Besides that, Instagram. Then it is mostly anti-viruses.

@meshyagain
Haven't heard of Amino.
Agree with Instagram. Not sure about anti-viruses since I haven't used one in some years.

@alyx Controversial opinion: Instagram is worse than Facebook
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