@LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior
In retrospect, it's easy to identify Quinn as a murderous psychopath. But for everyone at that time, she was a "literally who". We didn't have any information on these people because they weren't public figures, and GG didn't have anyone that mingled alongside Zoe, Wu or Sarkeesian. Nobody really had an actual conversation with these people, to get to understand how they think.
Even for Sarkeesian, who was more out there than the other attention whores, it took years, until McIntosh left her and she was left doing (or rather failing at doing) content on her own, that it became clear how much of a sock puppet she had been all along.
Identifying a psychopath is not an easy task, and even now, we don't want to fall into the mental trap of calling "psychopath" anyone who disagrees with us, because that will lead us into the same self gaslighting pattern that the left went down.
I've seen the left doing it since the online atheist movement of late 2000s. At some point, they stopped actually responding to Christian arguments, and they'd just accuse anyone right-wing of being stupid, racist, sexist, etc., and they self gaslight into believing that being right-wing was in fact synonymous with anything bad. And I think this then allowed them to be vulnerable to psychopaths taking over.
Cause once they had formed this environment where left=good, and right=bad, all a psychopath needs to do to avoid suspicion is to claim he's on the good side, while using all their vile psychopathic tendencies to attack the right-wing. And since the right-wing are by definition bad, any kind of attack is justifiable. If anyone from the left looks at you, just scream "Black Lives Matter" louder, or put on a wig, and you'll avoid scrutiny.
Coming back to the original point, regarding the "literal whos" of Gamergate. By the time people realized what Quinn, or Wu, were actually capable of, it was a bit late, and they went back to not actually mattering in the grand scheme of things, cause they weren't the main driving force of the SJW/woke phenomenon anymore. They were just a couple of stupid broads that pocked their heads out a bit too early. The real driving force were corrupt journalists (not just gaming journalists), universities, consulting companies, entertainment companies that became corrupted with most people not realizing it, international organizations etc. The fight was much larger than a handful of psychopathic narcissist women.
Maybe if people kept their attention on Zoe, Alec Holowka would still be alive. But the fight quickly became much bigger, against an ideology that threatens the lives of many, many more people, to the point where, no offense intended, Alec Holowka doesn't matter as much.
Was Gamergate wrong in how it did things? Sure. I've been saying for years that Gamergate, as a movement, was a complete failure. But it's possible that part of the reason it was such a failure is because it was such an early battle in the "culture war".
People were unfamiliar with the ideological traps the left had created, people didn't realize how far the cult had spread, and "racist" was still powerful against everyone of all political persuasions.
Gamergate was doomed to fail because even if you had the right approach at that time (and I know @ChristiJunior personally had, cause I remember his username/avatar from Twitter in those days) there were simply not enough "soldiers" willing to fight as hard as it was needed to accomplish anything.
We've seen today how much of a failure Concord was, because people were willing to call out the ideological driven uglification and all that. There were enough "soldiers" to spread the message, and everyone had been exposed to woke cult for long enough, to be receptive of the message "don't buy Concord".
Well, that didn't work for Mass Effect Andromeda, one of the earlier cases of woke ideology fucking up a game to the point of making women intentionally ugly. And it didn't work because people were simply incredulous. Normies hadn't been exposed to the shit for long enough to recognize the patterns. People weren't receptive to the message "don't buy this woke game" yet.
There might have been better ways in which Gamergate could have been fought, but I don't know if there was a legitimate chance for the results to be that much better. People who noticed Gamergate back then, were a select few who noticed something happening to the culture a decade before everyone else noticed. Not enough people to scream loud enough to make actual lasting change.
P.S. This is why I use Bing as a search engine, rather than Google. It actually understood the question and pulled info on Alec Holowka, the victim, instead of promoting the criminal.
@LukeAlmighty @maxmustermann @ChristiJunior
Oh god... I cringe so bad every time I see this picture. All the "I married myself" and "I married the Eiffel Tower" people are so fucking nuts. And Sarkeesian is somehow the worst of them, cause she didn't even have the guts to say it directly. A weeb that "marries" Hatsune Miku is just slightly less cringe then she is with this dumb post. "wedding-themed birthday"... the stupid cope.
@maxmustermann @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty
At least he's honest enough to say "I couldn't get a woman, but I'm marrying this symbol of femininity".
I'll always respect honesty more than people who lie about what they do.
@alyx @maxmustermann @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty the dude who married miku actually seems cool as fuck ngl
@alyx @LukeAlmighty @ChristiJunior Speaking of Wu, did anyone see that interview of him and Hat on Tim Poole's show? He (John) was absolutely insufferable and talked over everyone constantly.
I do however, have it on good authority that John Walker Flynt (BatWu) is terrible at poker.
@brimshae @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty
That was a while ago, wasn't it? I know I saw it (or rather listened to it), but I don't remember that much from it. Wu's appearances on Adam&Sitch were more memorable to me.
@alyx @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty Uh.... September 2023. Holy shit, has it been that long?
I have no idea who Adam & Stich are.
@brimshae @ChristiJunior @LukeAlmighty
YouTube weekly long-ass political podcast (they regularly have 8-9 hours long episodes, though the last 2-3 hours can be just superchat readings, so I usually skip that). They're center/center-left politically, and they've tackled every major topic I can think of.
@alyx @brimshae @ChristiJunior
One of them is quite smart, while the other one is unironically on the retarded side, so not exactly my kind of podcast, since neither the retard or the smart guy can shine.
@LukeAlmighty @brimshae @ChristiJunior
I wonder which you think is the smart one and which the retarded, cause I find both of them to have bad takes every now and then (and also great takes). But overall, I've found them to be reliably informative, they find interesting videos or people to analyze/criticize. Sometimes they even do topics that I don't see anyone else do at the time. I remember them focusing on criticizing CRT at a time when people were busy with Biden/Trump drama.
Sure, it's not a perfect show, and I've had plenty of disagreements with them over the years, but nothing is perfect, and it'd be boring if I never had a disagreement.
And besides, they've probably been my best avenue to keep in contact with what the far-left are doing via their reactions to random goings on.
@alyx @brimshae @ChristiJunior
Adam is the retarded one.
I don't remember ever seeing him have a briliant take. Instead, I really feel like he's dragging the convos down.
And I obviously don't mind disagreements. I watch Destiny and Vaush after all. I just need them to offer something fresh.
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