@beardalaxy @matrix
This is why I do actual testing, and don't rely on random info that a third party pulled from it's ass.
The 160kbps is youtube-dl's estimate probably, but it's extremely faulty. With my testing of opus encodes, they should have estimated it at 128kbps. I've NEVER seen an YouTube opus audio being anywhere outside the 11X-13Xbps range. This particular example is 137kbps. I'd be happy to test whatever video you want for this. Not sure what the 145 number is supposed to be, but it's still not the bitrate. Youtube-dl is out of date. I recommend you use yt-dlp. It seems it actually gives good estimates for bitrate.
>there isn't a way you would ever be able to tell what the original audio was like
You can hunt for compression artifacts in audacity with the spectrogram view. mp3 is the easiest to identify. It will have a frequency cutoff at 16khz for low bitrates, 18khz for decent encodes, and almost 20khz for best possible. Something else you'll find is big rectangular artifacts.
aac has a frequency cutoff at about 17khz at 128kbps, but no noticeable cutoff at over 256kbps, but it still has the square looking artifacts (though they will be harder to spot at higher bitrates).
opus has a frequency cutoff at 20khz, even for any bitrate, but you won't see the same types of blocky artifacts, even at 96kbps. If not for the cutoff, there's nothing clear cut that makes it clear it's a transcode and not lossless.
Attached you can see a 128kbps aac, a 320kbps mp3, and a 96kbps opus. (in that order if the upload preview is correct).
@beardalaxy @matrix
Except YouTube does opus these days. Which not only kicks mp3's ass, but also aac's ass in quality. A 160kbps opus is transparent and indistinguishable from a lossless source even to audiophile nerds with the equipment and autism to care about their audio cables.
Youtube's targeted bitrate for opus doesn't reach 160kbps though (which is a weird bitrate you pulled out of nowhere, cause it never targeted that. It did used to target 192kbps aac, a very long time ago, but never 160). From what I've seen it just slightly overshoots 128kbps, which for opus is still fine and surpasses mp3.
Whatever knowledge you think you have about Youtube's codecs is either way out of date, or was always completely wrong. Today, Youtube doesn't have low quality, or good enough audio. It has GOOD audio. Not great, but good.
The only limitation to Youtube's audio is not their transcoding, but what you upload to it. If you decide to upload 96kbps mp3, then sure, your Youtube video will sound like shit. But if you decide to upload with lossless audio, usually FLAC, then your video will have good audio.
And there are ways to check an audio file for encoding artifacts, especially mp3 ones. So it's not that difficult to have an educated guess on whether an opus ripped from Youtube is an mp3 retranscoded to opus, or if it was transcoded direct from a lossless format.
@mushroom_soup
Her legs look like a tree.
@thecurse
You can tell that's her cat.
@Terry
*sigh* Even Romanian military parades have a mix of soldiers with old-school rifles and modern equipment. A parade means jack shit about what we'd actually be given in battle. These parades aren't just a means of displaying current military prowess, but a way to show a bit of military history to citizens watching it.
@beardalaxy @matrix
>the resulting mp3
Not sure what you mean by that. I can rip opus directly from Youtube, and I keep it like that. Plays just fine on everything I need it on. ![]()
Let's make this clear, once and for all: if you have to question yourself whether you're gay or not, then you absolutely are a gay faggot.
Doesn't matter why you're questioning your sexuality, you're gay. Are you asking if you're gay for liking a trap? You're gay. Are you asking if you're gay cause you sucked a dick? You're gay. Are you just randomly asking if you're gay? You're gay.
To be clear: it's not some random gay actions that make you gay, but you asking the question.
If you fucked the ugliest tranny in existence, but you've NEVER questioned if you're gay or not, then you're as straight as a bullet in a perfect vacuum.
@matrix
I'm particularly interested in 1 Youtube channel that has a few music albums uploaded.
I know that opus, even at YouTube's bitrate, is great quality. Basically transparent, so I would want to rip one of those albums. But if the original encode was a bad mp3, then I wouldn't bother.
In this particular case, I was able to test a different song, compare it against a flac I have and transcodes from that flac to mp3, aac and opus. From looking at the spectograms (best use I ever get out of Audacity) it looks like the Youtube version was transcoded directly from lossless. Don't see either aac or mp3 artifacts.
@matrix
No, not what gets delivered to you after Youtube transcodes stuff, but what the person uploaded in originally. Basically what they outputed in their video editor.
@mushroom_soup
He obviously got his priorities wrong. First kill Trudeau, then your own mother.
@luithe @matrix
I mean it's a 4chan post, so take it with some grains of salt, but it's pretty obvious that he/she/it is pulling some stunt with the massive boobs. Even if it's a transwoman, it's clearly trying to push some nerves. It's just not entirely clear what the end goal is.
It could be a man trying to play the system, get fired and sue. Or it could be a transwoman trying to piss off the transphobes and brag that you can't touch her.
@Awoo
400 years is probably an exaggeration, even for Turks, but as far as I can tell, modern culture wasn't developed in here, but rather imported. So it came into cities at first, obviously, and it was much too slow to trickle into rural areas.
Add to that Romania's particular context, of being under constant occupation and control for hundreds of years, only for communism to hit when we were finally allowed to do as we pleased.
I don't think until now we were ever in a stable enough situation so that the rural parts could catch up to the urban areas.
@Awoo
Jesus fuck...I though 5 was a raven at first glance... Yeah, I'm 5. Definitely 5.
なんで君はこれを読んでいるかよ
Just another random person passing by.
Oh hi.
The Alyx Vance must go this way anyway.
Gordon Freeman dies in All Dogs Go To Heaven 2.
I wasn't designed to be carried.
En Taro Igel!
Lift me up, let me go...