@Dicer @shitgrifter @Type_Other He doesn't pretend to believe it, he's calling you inconsistent, which by it'self is valid
@Donald_McRonald @AR-15 @shitgrifter I said nothing about bad faith. He obviously knows reality doesn't distort according to what a libtard thinks
@tengumatingpress @shitgrifter I know, I don't disagree
My point is just that it's retarded to disagree with it because the libtard is telling you to be consistent in a belief while not believing it himself
@shitgrifter Philosophical Idealism, except reality is only true according to what's not in the mind of the libtard
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@Type_Other @shitgrifter But that's actually an example
You should believe that IQ is completely meaningless, so stop caring if you're child is 70 or 130
No, I do in fact believe that IQ is legitimate, and I have nothing but contempt for your retarded beliefs
So yeah, this argument wouldn't work on me, but maybe if I use it on you you'll do what I want
@AR-15 @shitgrifter Refusing to reflect on a legitimate point from an enemy just makes you weaker. The other stuff I don't disagree with
@Donald_McRonald @AR-15 @shitgrifter You're not under any obligation to do anything, nobody said that
They're libtards, pointing out they do it in bad faith isn't undermining them
Making an actual point would undermine them. And you have so many options with such a retarded point
@Donald_McRonald @shitgrifter Then explain how
@shitgrifter @AR-15 It's not a legitimate point. I don't have a problem with making fun of it. I have a problem with implying it's wrong just because the libtard is applying logic he doesn't accept himself
@shitgrifter @AR-15 No, it doesn't. A point is true or false, irregardless of what the libtard making it thinks
@MeBigbrain @shitgrifter It's not, which is why I didn't say it. The point I have a problem with is that it's wrong *because the libtard doesn't believe it himself*
@Type_Other @shitgrifter No, it doesn't
Applying your opponents logic to a scenario where it goes completely retarded is proving it's completely retarded logic. Sane logic has to work in EVERY scenario
It's a completely normal and rational method. I think it even has a specific name for it, but it's greek garbage so I can't remember it
The original version of the meme was "christians need to follow all the hippy shit jesus said because they're christians", which is just true
@shitgrifter @AR-15 I don't have any disagreement with externalities or it being a bad point
>why do I have to have some kind of obligation
Nobody said that. It's internet memes, do what you want, I'm still going to continue being right
>bad faith
Irregardless of it, pointing out when someone is inconsistent is completely legitimate
@AR-15 @shitgrifter That's not in any way true and you know it. You have your own brain, you can look at whether the point is valid or not, regardless of what the libtard's motives are
@Fullmetal4456 @shitgrifter Alright, explain why
@shitgrifter Because you can use your own brain, and then if it's a good point you need to reflect
Here it's genuinely a retarded point, but the original version of that meme was basically "jesus said a bunch of hippy shit so you need to listen to it", which is completely true
And regardless it's a dumb retort. Making a scenario where the logic of your opponent leads to a retarded conclusion, showing the logic is retarded, is a pretty standard method
@Terry "You believe X, so do Y to be consistent" is completely valid irregardless of what the libtard thinks
@shitgrifter The meme doesn't mention externalities or context, it implies the argument is wrong because the libtard doesn't believe it himself