@matana @LukeAlmighty the only frame data I know is that melee fox and falco's reflector comes out on frame 1 and has invulnerability for that 1 frame. I don't even know how long the hit box lasts. People will ask "where is such and such hitbox for this move" and I'll always be like, idk man it's like in his armpit when the sword is halfway through the swing or something.