@LukeAlmighty I think the point of the phrase is to raise boys in a way that they won't rape people, you know give them an actual moral code instead of a fake one or nothing at all. Because a lot of parents, if they're even there for their kids at all, suck ass.
@LukeAlmighty because if you just say nothing and don't push back against evil, the evil will eventually take over.
@Svantovit @beardalaxy
> My advice to most men is, if you get a whiff of ANY blank slatist logic, that's the last date.
Absolutely. few things are so non-negotiable as your own safety.
@Svantovit @LukeAlmighty there is something to be said about telling grown ass men not to rape, because a grown ass man who is going to rape someone won't give a shit if he's told no.
but raising a boy with a strong moral code is what i'm talking about.
@beardalaxy @Svantovit
Yes, but you took that issue into kinda bad thread.
@LukeAlmighty @Svantovit as i see it, there is a difference between "teach" and "tell" that isn't being understood here.
you asked lol
@Rwoeidk @Svantovit @LukeAlmighty luke's post is more about telling men not to rape, which obviously doesn't make sense because men who will rape are going to rape and telling them no isn't going to stop them, much like telling a guy with a gun not to shoot you isn't going to change his mind.
but TEACHING people things is different. you can teach someone good morals before they ever get in a position like that. possibly after with rehab.
it's not like people don't know that rape is wrong, they just do it anyway because they want to. but if you can eliminate the desire to want to, or at least give someone enough mental stability to not rape someone even if they do want to, that's what the goal is.
my assumption is that most rapists had bad childhoods for one reason or another. even if there is no direct abuse, emotional/physical neglect, intentional or not, still harms people. shocker.
the phrase "teach men not to rape" is a lot more deep than just "tell your rapist he shouldn't be raping you and he'll stop, duh."
now, whether feminists actually use it that way is a different story. just from my experience though actually talking to people, it's definitely more of a thing like "where did this person's learning go so wrong that they raped someone? make sure to teach your kids correctly." which of course, teaching isn't just in what you tell someone, it's how you act toward them that will make them more or less susceptible to your teachings. it's also about not being a hypocrite with your teachings.
@Svantovit @LukeAlmighty @Rwoeidk i'm no blank slatist, and it is apparent to me that there are different biological and sociological factors at play. that's why i mention white people's mental health as well. it's a diseased part of the culture that needs to be removed and fought against so that we can make things better.
there are people out there that want things to be worse because it benefits them (namely, businessmen and politicians). there are people who are ignorant. there are those who don't want to face the heart of these issues because it's uncomfortable. all of that just makes it proliferate and the only way to dig out of that hole is to work on changing the culture, which involves teaching. not relaxing laws or covering up statistics or trying to make the problems go away with money or even more disorder and chaos.
The fact that I've been listening to women say this shit to me since 2009...at Texas' most "conservative school" should tell you all you need to know.
And, the last few years, my niece has been parroting those phrases at me. They are high on the power, and the birth control brain doesn't help. I can't think of it any other way.
Bill Burr's bit about a wife-beater seeing a billboard on the way home from work, decides not to beat his wife, because he just didn't know! I've been saying this to them since '09, "Who's this for? Why are you telling me?" They simply refuse to believe we didn't have to be 'taught not to.'
It also gives their victim narrative a perpetual villain, because they'll keep telling us this shit, even if rape is 100% a non-white crime, because we're men. It doesn't matter that we're their brothers and sons; they can't give us the benefit of the doubt. It would cause a back draft in the part of their brains dealing with their ideology.
My advice to most men is, if you get a whiff of ANY blank slatist logic, that's the last date. "We've been assimilating people into our cultures for how many decades and centuries now, and you think we just need to work harder? For what benefit? You think pitbulls are great?! FBI crime statistics are wrong!? Pfizer researchers did their due diligence?!" It's not worth the headache anymore.