@LukeAlmighty I think the point of the phrase is to raise boys in a way that they won't rape people, you know give them an actual moral code instead of a fake one or nothing at all. Because a lot of parents, if they're even there for their kids at all, suck ass.
@beardalaxy
Why do women always use the most retarded phrase to describe a real concept then? Especially, if the phrase points to a different problem then?
Because teach people to be civilized is a phrase that is aimed at civilized people. Therefore, repeating it turns into nothing but nagging.
And human trash is always going to exist too.
It is an absolute logical net of bullshit
@LukeAlmighty because if you just say nothing and don't push back against evil, the evil will eventually take over.
@Svantovit @LukeAlmighty there is something to be said about telling grown ass men not to rape, because a grown ass man who is going to rape someone won't give a shit if he's told no.
but raising a boy with a strong moral code is what i'm talking about.
@LukeAlmighty @Svantovit as i see it, there is a difference between "teach" and "tell" that isn't being understood here.
you asked lol
@Rwoeidk @Svantovit @LukeAlmighty luke's post is more about telling men not to rape, which obviously doesn't make sense because men who will rape are going to rape and telling them no isn't going to stop them, much like telling a guy with a gun not to shoot you isn't going to change his mind.
but TEACHING people things is different. you can teach someone good morals before they ever get in a position like that. possibly after with rehab.
it's not like people don't know that rape is wrong, they just do it anyway because they want to. but if you can eliminate the desire to want to, or at least give someone enough mental stability to not rape someone even if they do want to, that's what the goal is.
my assumption is that most rapists had bad childhoods for one reason or another. even if there is no direct abuse, emotional/physical neglect, intentional or not, still harms people. shocker.
the phrase "teach men not to rape" is a lot more deep than just "tell your rapist he shouldn't be raping you and he'll stop, duh."
now, whether feminists actually use it that way is a different story. just from my experience though actually talking to people, it's definitely more of a thing like "where did this person's learning go so wrong that they raped someone? make sure to teach your kids correctly." which of course, teaching isn't just in what you tell someone, it's how you act toward them that will make them more or less susceptible to your teachings. it's also about not being a hypocrite with your teachings.
@Svantovit @LukeAlmighty @Rwoeidk i'm no blank slatist, and it is apparent to me that there are different biological and sociological factors at play. that's why i mention white people's mental health as well. it's a diseased part of the culture that needs to be removed and fought against so that we can make things better.
there are people out there that want things to be worse because it benefits them (namely, businessmen and politicians). there are people who are ignorant. there are those who don't want to face the heart of these issues because it's uncomfortable. all of that just makes it proliferate and the only way to dig out of that hole is to work on changing the culture, which involves teaching. not relaxing laws or covering up statistics or trying to make the problems go away with money or even more disorder and chaos.