@xianc78 @beardalaxy if you get it done ill pick up some hardware but you guys are gonna have to come up with a name

@graf I'll let @beardalaxy decide. It was his idea after all.

@xianc78 @graf uhhh give me a bit to think about it lol. I'd be more than happy to field submissions as well.

@beardalaxy @graf What do you think about these names?

@xianc78 @graf hmm, I can't help but think they all just sound exactly like other sites but sightly tweaked, which makes sense because it's chat gpt. It'd be better to have something more unique if possible. Then again, all of my creativity is going towards other things right now lmao. I might think up something good.

@beardalaxy @graf Got the submit form, but the script to handle the form hasn't been written yet.

@xianc78 @graf it's just a concept I know, but remember content filters and maybe let them choose what platform their upload is for with a dropdown too you know? Would be cool if the site could support homebrew as well.
I know this is for game submissions but as far as mods go it would definitely need a few more options too :)
But you're doing crazy work!

@xianc78 @graf just noticed your login name lol

@beardalaxy @graf I just banged at the keyboard when writing it down. I wasn't even thinking about Gondola.

@beardalaxy @graf I still have content filters in mind. I just haven't implemented them yet. I was thinking that tags can be used to filter content. I know that there are some people who don't mind seeing NSFW games, but don't want to see loli or furry shit, so yeah I plan on including them.

I plan on having a separate submission page for mods.

@xianc78 @graf dope, dope x)

tags would work for it yeah, just as long as the stuff like loli or whatever is opt-in instead of opt-out. Whitelist instead of blacklist, kind of thing :)

@beardalaxy @graf Okay, having multiple platforms in a drop-down will be easier said than done, due to the way SQL tables work.

For mods, I might need two database tables for them. One for the mods themselves and another one for the games the mods were made for (since mods will also be for games not hosted on the site).

@xianc78 @graf you're the man, i don't know shit about this stuff lol

@beardalaxy @graf Also remember that features don't have to be implemented right away. It's best to start small.

I was thinking of having an "other" option for anything that's not Windows, macOS, or Linux because when I though of fedi gamedevs, I remembered that @crunklord420 makes TempleOS games. However, if I implement it that way there would only be one "other" category which might be a problem if you support multiple obscure platforms.

How does itch.io implement this? I know that they officially support Windows, macOS, and Linux, but I see a few homebrew games on there.

@xianc78 @graf @crunklord420 For their genres, they are more specifically defined, which is good imo. There are only like 15 or so of them, plus "no genre" and "other."

Then they have tags, which can be anything you want although it will pop up with suggestions (probably based on what other people have put in there).

Itch.io actually only has 4 selectable platforms, being Windows, Mac OS, Linux, and Android. That's for each download. You can also just select no platform for your download at all, in which case you'd probably just want to specify in the file name itself. Or, somewhere in the tags/description if it is integral to your game. So I think an "Other" option would likely be totally fine.

@beardalaxy @graf @crunklord420 Yeah and if they have multiple obscure ports, they can bundle them all in the same zip file.

@beardalaxy @graf Script now handles submissions, but still no file uploads (still trying decide how to store them). You can also now browse by genre and a view game page has been created.

@beardalaxy @graf Uploads have now been implemented along with logos and screenshots. I just need to include tags, patch any possible exploits, and then I can move onto mods.

@xianc78 @graf damn dude you're making very quick work of this

@beardalaxy @graf I can't believe myself either. But my biggest fear is that someone else finds some exploit that can break the site.

@beardalaxy @graf Tags have now been added, but they don't do anything yet.

@beardalaxy @graf Added a profile view. Right now, it only shows a list of games published by the user.

@beardalaxy @graf Profiles now have bios. This bio is just taken from a random MobyGames page.

(Ian Fisch, if you are reading this, I hope you don't mind.)

@beardalaxy @graf I am now proud to say that tag-filtering has now been implemented.

@beardalaxy @graf Working on an edit game page and an admin control panel right now.

@beardalaxy @graf I'm still working on the site. I was working on my game and was busy with work for the past week. I'm trying to make it that you can upload more than 3 screenshots (I realized that there is a better way to do it).

@beardalaxy @graf You can now upload more than 3 screenshots. Previously, the game table in the database had 3 columns for screenshots. Now, screenshots are in their own table.

@beardalaxy @graf I'm currently patching some possible SQL injection exploits. After that, I will move on to mods.

@beardalaxy @graf Just started working on mod submissions and created a mods table in the database. Once I fully implement mod uploads, all I just need to do is finish the admin/mod panels, create an installation script, and I'm done. Unless you guys have other ideas, of course.

@beardalaxy @graf Mod submissions have been implemented along with a view mod page. Though mods can't be search, yet.

@beardalaxy @graf A browse mods page has now been implemented.

Here is a rough estimate of what still needs to be done:

* The ability to search for anything by title
* Pagination in the browse pages
* Edit game/mods page - Technically I finished it, but re-implementing the way screenshots work means that I have to modify it. I also need to create an edit page for mods as well.
* Delete game/mod script - Working on that right now. I need to make sure that deleting a game/mod also deletes the screenshots and other files
* Delete/ban user - Again need to make sure the deletion is a cascade.
* Admin control panel - This is a list on it's own. I need to make sure the admin has control of everything.
* Report tool - I have a report table in the database, but I haven't implemented reports yet.
* Client-side form validation - This is only for the benefit of the user. Basically, it's JavaScript that validates a form before sending it to the server so the user doesn't have to press the back button if they mess up
* The ability to change passwords
* User avatars
* Links on user profiles - Links to relevant social media, websites, and donation pages
* User comments - Haven't even started implementing them yet.
* User ratings - Haven't even started on this either
* Contact page - Either you or graf will need to set up email addresses to contact the site's staff
* Installation script - Finally, I will need to write a PHP script that will automatically create the database, the necessary file structure, and the first admin account.

Things I'm Considering:

* Moderators - Right now, there are only admins and standard users. I could add support for moderators, but I don't know what privileges they would have that admins won't. Admins can basically edit and delete any content along with banning any user. I feel like moderators would basically have the same privileges as admins in this case. On forums, the only difference is that moderators can't create boards or change ranks of other users. I don't know what the difference would be here.
* Forums - I could either have one forum per game/mod or have general forums for discussing things like game development, modding, or gaming in general. Though adding either of these would just add more complexity and more work for any admins or moderators. Maybe later if the site becomes an active place.

Take note that even though I have meager experience with back-end development, I was never an admin or moderator on any forum, blog, wiki, or any other community site, so my knowledge on this is quite limited.

Anyway, I plan on having this thing done by the end of next month, if not earlier.

@xianc78 @graf normally an admin would have power over the entire site, as they're usually the one hosting it. It's not just moderation, it's things like changing the site itself. They are also the ones with the final say so things like appeals would typically go through them. On forums at least, there are global mods and section mods who can do what you described just in their respective areas.

I wouldn't jump to forums quite yet, I'd just stick with comments on the game page for now.

@beardalaxy @graf
>it's things like changing the site itself

But most of those are done by actually changing the sites files on the server, which is either done through FTP, SSH, or direct (physical) access to the server, and those use completely different accounts. At least on forums, admins can create new subforums.

I could make the TOS, FAQ, and related pages editable through the admin panel, but I feel like only one person should be in control of that, and I am aware that a lot of sites have co-admins, but from my experience, they don't really seem to have a say in much and just do things under the blessing of the owner admin. So, they are basically elite moderators.

@beardalaxy @graf I've added support for links in the bios.

@beardalaxy @graf And I didn't realize that I haven't included mods in the profile pages yet, but I just added them now.

@beardalaxy @graf Users can now change their passwords.

@beardalaxy @graf Users can now delete their games and admins can now delete any games.