I do not understand the entire "GTA VI will crash the industry" argument.
So, one game will cost 100$. It might even sell. Why the fuck does that mean, that all other companies should immediately change their prices to an unsustainable ones? If noone buys it, they can return it. If people buy it, they have no issue.
So, what are people talking about with this claim?
@LukeAlmighty
>I do not understand the entire...
Me neither. Gamers are not strong willed enough to actually protest, in a meaningful way, a massive price increase. So even if every single AAA studio out there follows Rockstar's lead, and increase base price to $100 or more, little will change. People will buy bad overpriced AAA games and feel scammed. But they're already buying bad games and getting scammed, and little has happened to rectify it.
I wonder if the narrative that the industry will crashed came from gamers that are coping that they will have to pay more $$$, cause they know they can't control themselves from buying slop. So they try to fearmonger, hoping the industry will reconsider the price increase.
@LukeAlmighty Also, can we stop pretending like games haven't had price increases already? What do you think all the Deluxe Editions and whatnot are? Pretty much every single time, things included in the "premium" editions of games used to be standard features. Or the countless cases of DLCs that got cut out from the game in the final stretch to sell separately. Games haven't been $60 in a loooooong time.
@alyx
Exactly. People unironically payed for Monster Hunter Wilds on mass. They bought Oblivion again, and I am supposed to be sad, that the same people will be milked..... again?
This will not affect Factorio, X3 or literally any game made for non-cow audience.
@LukeAlmighty @alyx I've been saying this about $80 Mario Kart too. Games are not $60, they just seem like they are. Everybody has spent more than $60 on a game before. Fuck, look at all the popular MMOs. You pay for the game and all the expansions and a monthly subscription. It's well over $100 to play FFXIV for a year at the most basic level but nobody complains about it because it's good. They feel like that it a justified price. OSRS is $100 a year minimum. So if GTA 6 comes out and it's $100 but you get hundreds of hours out of it and it's this massive blockbuster title, is that not worth it? I would so much rather pay $80 for Mario Kart World than $60 for the majority of other AAA games out there. And that's exactly what I've done for a long time lol, in the past decade the only full price AAA games I've purchased are Nintendo ones. If you don't count the ratchet and clank or FF16 pc releases at least, but those came in at $50 instead so it kind of just half counts. Meanwhile, I bought breath of the wild, tears of the kingdom ($70!), smash ultimate, Mario kart 8 deluxe, animal crossing new horizons, and Kirby and the forgotten land on switch. Those games were all worth the money to me, with the exception of maybe AC because I kind of got fucked when my Nintendo account got hacked but that's a different story.
Anyway, point is, yeah... People are already buying games over $60 even if they don't realize it but they do so because they think it is worth their money to spend more on it. If that's the case, then there's nothing wrong with a game coming out of the gate providing that value up front and center and wanting to charge more for it.
As for the rest of the industry, they're already struggling to sell games at $60 and $70. Hell, cheaper than that for some of them. There are plenty of FREE live service games that are getting completely destroyed. It's really not about the price. If they think raising their prices to the same level as Nintendo or Rockstar, potentially the two highest quality studios, they are going to be in for a rough time.
@KaiserKitty @alyx @LukeAlmighty I still feel like I got $70 out of TotK tbh, even though I ended up being of two minds about the game. It reuses the same Hyrule but there's so much shit added and changed, in fact there's kind of TOO much imo. I got really burned out.
I'm hype for crossworlds too. Judging by how much I've played Mario Kart games vs how much I've played the Sonic Racing games though, I think an extra $20 is REALLY worth the price there. I have maybe like 50 hours combined in the sonic ones, whereas I've put 300+ into mk8dx alone.
Way too much Nintendo hate out there lol, I don't get it. I hate their litigation shit, but their games have always been things I know I'll have a great time playing if I buy them. Like man, I had never played a Kirby game before (outside of air ride). Pre-ordered Forgotten Land and was extremely pleased, it's one of my favorite games ever. There are some nintendo games that have questionable quality every now and then, but I think that overall they have an amazing track record that goes back farther than most studios have even existed.
@KaiserKitty @alyx @LukeAlmighty can't really compare mk8 track count to mkw track count because mkw is going for a different thing entirely with the in-between tracks. Can't really compare 2D, small-scope indie games made by two people over the course of 15 years to a massive team making a huge, 3D game over just a few years either.
I'm really excited to play the game, I would have paid $80 for it if I had to (got the bundle instead so it was $50). I'm paying $120 to go see fucking babymetal so I can be right up next to the stage for 2 hours. There isn't going to be value in everything for everyone, obviously, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth it to some people still. Hell, this is why so many people still stick with consoles instead of pc gaming, because they don't find as much value in a more expensive pc when the cheaper console plays the games they want just fine anyway. That's totally fine.
@KaiserKitty @alyx @LukeAlmighty also forza is REALLY not my thing lol, it's not even close to being arcadey enough. NFS is about as close as I get to realistic racing and that says a lot lol. I tried playing horizon 5 and I didn't like how it felt to play, nor did I like the way the races were handled. Nfs is a lot more structured in that regard.
But hey, I can tell it's got a lot of effort put into it and I can recognize it's a good game even if it isn't really my thing. Funny enough, I think it's also $100 if you want all the content lol. Maybe it was $80? Point still stands.