@beardalaxy And the people that tried getting Trump arrested and assassinated didn't release that info because?...
@alyx they are all on it too
@beardalaxy You do realize they could have released it partially. Selectively redact things. If they had incriminating stuff on Trump, and they wanted Trump gone (which we know there's plenty of people who do, including Republicans), they could have gotten the thing done.
@alyx Trump could redact his own name and release the files too. If the files are made up by them, why didn't they use the made up files to hurt him? Why did Trump directly say that they would work to release the epstein files in interviews (though perhaps not all of it) and made a huge stink out of already released info being PHASE 1 but now all of the sudden it just doesn't exist? Case closed?
My theory is that whether trump is on it or not, there are much bigger names on there and plenty from other countries too. So releasing it would cause utter chaos. So be it, I say.
@alyx Alternatively, none of it ever existed and we have just been gaslit and lied to about it this whole time up until now. So why would it be up until now? It doesn't add up. If there never were any files, we should be receiving an apology for lying that there were, but instead they're trying to divert our attention. Especially Trump.
@beardalaxy "Alternatively, none of it ever existed and we have just been gaslit and lied to about it this whole time up until now"
Pretty much this. People weren't so much lied to, but rather self-gaslit. People gaslit the hell out of themselves into being sure Epstein was blackmailing people, and that he was murdered in a spy movie fashion, even though we didn't have evidence for it. Just speculation.
But this wasn't restricted to the average people. The likes of Trump, Kash, etc., ended up believing the hype too. This is why they were so eager a few months ago, promising to release lists and whatnot, because they believed, just like everyone else, that all this magic bullet proof evidence existed, and waiting for them at the FBI. And the reason they're all so dejected right now, and want to avoid talking about it, is because they finally got to look over everything themselves, and realized they fucked up. That they were wrong, and promised something they couldn't deliver.
Have you seen Trump being gracious about being wrong? This is why we're not gonna receive an apology letter, cause the man can't stand being proven wrong.
Epstein probably still did more fucked up things than he got convicted for. But my bet right now is that the evidence is lacking. As for any potential co-conspirators, or clients, at best I imagine FBI has another flight-log type list. As in, a list of names that they can't prove were clients. A list of names with no context to it that can prove in a court of law that they committed crimes. In which case, not only are you at an investigatory dead end, but you can't even release such a list without being subjected to defamation lawsuits. Cause releasing such a list will still damage the reputation of those people in the public.
We could still talk about why the evidence is shit, and it could be because FBI didn't collect it properly years ago, or somebody destroyed it in the meantime. Who knows. But right now, this feels like the most likely scenario to me, that there's not much evidence to restart an investigation, and the evidence there is, doesn't fit with the theories the public created.
@alyx pam bondi literally said the files were on her desk though lol
but yes, the files were all completely fabricated by the democrats and so we don't care about them
but if the democrats fabricated them why didn't they even do anything with them
retarded arguments, retarded political bullshit
@alyx if the files were never real to begin with, nobody is ever going to believe it unless there are actual apologies to the american people for misleading them, deliberately or otherwise, instead of this crazy attempt at subversion. it makes everyone look more guilty but they somehow don't understand that because they are too prideful to own up to the mistake. we are done with pointing fingers. no matter which way you spin it this is all a massive blunder.
@beardalaxy
>they are too prideful to own up to the mistake. we are done with pointing fingers. no matter which way you spin it this is all a massive blunder.
Yes and yes.